[[The mother was an alien, and could not transfer citizenship at birth (child not born directly into citizenship). The key thing in Nguyen is that it recognizes naturalization as requiring some event after birth to secure citizenship. Birth that requires no such post-natal event is NOT naturalization. Is there any other non-naturalized category besides “natural born?” I am not aware of any.]]
If you don’t mind, I’d like to ping you over to the following thread briefly, as I am in a discussion that that follows almost to a T what you have stated about the Nguyen case- only I’m not explaining it as well as you are- I’m saying essentially the same thing, but in a more convoluted manner unfortunately
The counter argument in the thread is that the Nguyen case is that the case doesn’t make an equivalency between a mother who is a citizen who has a child on soil and a citizen mother who has a child off soil because the case is only about 8 us code 1409
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3390723/reply?c=219
Perhaps He’s not communicating a point that he is trying to make well, or maybe I’m just not seeing his point- I can’t tell which- you don’t have to jump into that thread, but Your ability to word arguments cohesively is better than mine I’m afraid-