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Megyn Kelly to Ted Cruz: "The record supports you."
January 29, 2016 | Vanity

Posted on 01/29/2016 1:14:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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My problem with all these explanations is that, if the poison pill strategies are so well known and understood, then there should be numerous news stories from 2013 - when the Gang of Eight bill debate was actually taking place - that discuss Cruz's numerous attempts to insert poison pills.

I haven't seen anyone link stories from 2013 that do that. Many want to say the Jeff Sessions support of Cruz proves that Ted is being honest about his 2013 motives. Well, Sessions is my senator and I've watched him much long than most here, starting when he was AG of Alabama.

I also think Sessions is the gold standard on immigration and trade issues now. He's also a politician. He's gone out of his way to shore up both Trump and Cruz on the immigration issue. He attended rallies of each in his south Alabama home territory. I think he's just splitting his bets on Trump and Cruz, trying to shore up both, hoping that one of the two he considers most reliable on the immigration issue will win in the end.

I just don't trust Cruz or Rubio on this issue. Neither can stop telling their own family's very emotional immigrant story. I don't believe either would be the one to start saying NO to all those who want to come to US for a better life. Unless we elect someone who can say no, the flood gates will really open even wider and there will be no possibility of turning it back in the future because poorly educated and poor recent immigrants will have become such a political force that no one who'd control immigration could ever be elected president.

And I think Ted's poison pill explanation is a very recent invention. His real policy was legal status, but no path to citizenship, and high legal immigration through various means. In his announcement speech, he said he wanted to make legal immigration "something to celebrate", and other places said he wanted to "streamline" it. He's not the one to bring about sensible immigration policies for the US.

61 posted on 01/29/2016 7:41:20 AM PST by Will88
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My problem with all these explanations is that, if the poison pill strategies are so well known and understood, then there should be numerous news stories from 2013 - when the Gang of Eight bill debate was actually taking place - that discuss Cruz's numerous attempts to insert poison pills. I haven't seen anyone link stories from 2013 that do that.

I've posted them for you in Comments 26, 27 (it's also 2013, I miss dated it), 28, and 30.

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Dec 20, 2015: Jeff Sessions: Without Ted Cruz, Amnesty Would Have Passed In 2013

62 posted on 01/29/2016 7:47:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Will88

+1


63 posted on 01/29/2016 7:51:51 AM PST by Pelham (Nikki Haley, ethnically cleansing South Carolina for the GOPe)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That The Hill article creates another situation that requires one to engage in even more mental acrobatics makes it even harder to believe what Cruz is saying now.

So, we are to believe Ted's claim that Obama's insistence on a path to citizenship was a poison pill, that Obama didn't want the bill to pass, but wanted it to remain a campaign issue?

And that his (Ted's) amendment to remove the path to citizenship was also a poison pill? If Obama's insistence on citizenship was already a poison pill as Ted said in 2013, why was another poison pill needed? Why did Ted try to add an amendment that removed the path to citizenship, Obama's poison pill.

If it wasn't going to pass, Ted should have just sat back and smiled and allowed Obama to kill his own bill, IF Ted did not want the bill to pass.

This story make's Ted's current claims sound even more implausible and ridiculous.

64 posted on 01/29/2016 8:08:24 AM PST by Will88
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Senator Sessions gives no explanation as to just what Cruz did to help defeat the bill. As I said in #61, I think my senator is simply dividing his bets and trying to be supportive of both Trump and Cruz on immigration during the presidential primaries.

And that link in #26 where Cruz claims that the path to citizenship in the Gang of Eight bill was already a poison pill just makes his current explanations seem even more illogical.


65 posted on 01/29/2016 8:17:13 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

27?

28?

30?


66 posted on 01/29/2016 8:54:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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The fact that Cruz claimed that Obama’s insistence on a path to citizenship was already a poison pill (#64) simply makes Cruz’s assertion that his amendment to remove the path to citizenship was poison pill nonsensical.

Obama’s insistence on a path to citizenship was a poison pill.

Ted’s attempt to remove the path to citizenship would have been a poison pill.

No point in even trying to make sense of those two Cruz explanations.


67 posted on 01/29/2016 9:17:20 AM PST by Will88
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Here is the video link of Kelly Files where Cruz was concerned. It may of already been posted by you, but for my reference then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUV_HiSxwfA


68 posted on 01/29/2016 9:56:32 AM PST by LowOiL ("Let us do evil that good may come"? ....condemnation is just - Romans 3:8)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I get the feeling someone is just trolling you btw... lead horse to water etc..


69 posted on 01/29/2016 9:57:50 AM PST by LowOiL ("Let us do evil that good may come"? ....condemnation is just - Romans 3:8)
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I was coming to that conclusion.

Thanks for seeing it too.

: )


70 posted on 01/29/2016 10:32:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Thanks!

That’s the one.


71 posted on 01/29/2016 10:33:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Megyn Underwood delenda est.


72 posted on 03/09/2016 4:57:29 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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