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Read This Or You May Die
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 1/22/2016 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 01/28/2016 1:49:19 PM PST by MichCapCon

A story published by Crain’s Detroit Business joins the legion of media reports giving a sympathetic ear to local government and school officials condemning a new law restricting their ability to use taxpayer resources to electioneer in favor of tax hike proposals during the 60 days before an election.

For example, Crain’s reports: “Michigan law already made it illegal for cities, school districts and other public bodies to advocate a position on a ballot issue. The bill Snyder signed also rules out the sending of factual information. And that’s what has municipal leaders so concerned.”

The story then quotes one of the law’s critics, Rochester Hills Mayor Bryan Barnett, complete with a photo of the mayor.

ForTheRecord says: If Crain’s had looked at mailings Barnett’s own city had sent out, the shortcomings of the earlier electioneering limits would have been immediately apparent. Indeed, the editors might have recognized that their “already illegal” assertion was evidence the previous law was not effective at limiting abuses.

In one instance, while promoting a tax increase labeled as being for public safety, Rochester Hills mailed fliers to residents claiming they could die if the measure was not approved.

“There are always trade-offs in life but this one can mean the difference between life and death as seconds matter in fire department response times,” the flier read.

Crain’s observation that “Michigan law already made it illegal” for cities to advocate for tax hikes is undermined by the reality that the Secretary of State’s enforcement has been weak at best, and its powers to do more are limited.

Specifically, the only previous restrictions on taxpayer-funded electioneering applied to “express advocacy,” which only prohibits campaign material that contains the words "Vote Yes" or a near equivalent.

Other than that, before the new law was signed it was almost anything goes. For example, one complaint against a school district was dismissed with this: “The statute, however, does not require that the information disseminated by a public body be accurate or complete … only that it is factual.”


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: taxes

1 posted on 01/28/2016 1:49:19 PM PST by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

I thought this was an anti Trump thread.....


2 posted on 01/28/2016 1:51:10 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey
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To: Daniel Ramsey

LOL! So did I.


3 posted on 01/28/2016 1:52:40 PM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Daniel Ramsey

It could have been


4 posted on 01/28/2016 1:52:44 PM PST by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: MichCapCon

Read. Pretty sure I’m still gonna die. Some day.


5 posted on 01/28/2016 1:54:13 PM PST by pgkdan (Trump 2016 ! And then put Ted Cruz on the USSC!)
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To: MichCapCon

Hello!

I think I can state with pretty close to 100% certainty that all people reading this thread will die, as will the same percentage of people ~not~ reading this thread.


6 posted on 01/28/2016 1:56:20 PM PST by shibumi (Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way)
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To: MichCapCon

I am INVEENSSEBALL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXwP780LBw8


7 posted on 01/28/2016 1:58:13 PM PST by prisoner6 (Unmutual and Disharmonious)
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To: All
Our local school district has always used our own kids to promote their ballot issues. For example, if a school levy is "state issue #10", I've seen kids run shirtless across the football field during halftime with "yes on 10" painted on their chests.

I even heard a story from one of my kids that a teacher ripped into the kids after a levy failure saying that if it wasn't for their cheap parents at home, they would still have busing in the district. Or something like that.

It's disgusting. I've asked my kids if they know how much I pay in property taxes, how the levy will affect my property taxes, and how the district is currently spending the money they get. That got the point across to them very well.

I believe they've toned it down a bit since they've gotten a lot of complaints. But you can still see the "yes on 10" signs stapled to bulletin boards inside classrooms come election season.

Using kids that aren't old enough to vote or pay taxes to promote tax-based issues is very very wrong.
8 posted on 01/28/2016 2:02:45 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: MichCapCon

so, the tax suckers object to a law that forbids the use of tax dollars to lobby for more tax dollars. If afflicted by reason or logic how does one support this position?


9 posted on 01/28/2016 2:04:06 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: inpajamas

Whats next for the Trump haters, holding a basket of kittens over a freeway overpass?


10 posted on 01/28/2016 2:05:05 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey
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To: MichCapCon

11 posted on 01/28/2016 2:06:35 PM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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To: mmichaels1970

“I even heard a story from one of my kids that a teacher ripped into the kids after a levy failure saying that if it wasn’t for their cheap parents at home, they would still have busing in the district. Or something like that.”

I cannot tell you how angry I would have been if that happened when my kids were in school.

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12 posted on 01/28/2016 2:07:24 PM PST by Mears
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To: MichCapCon

Ultimate clickbait title.


13 posted on 01/28/2016 2:07:26 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: MichCapCon

Actually, I expect to die whether I read it or not.


14 posted on 01/28/2016 2:09:43 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: MichCapCon

I can’t read the initial post beyond the “school officials” part.

(Odd control characters, I assume)

People who send their kids to the government to be educated are less than human garbage. Utter gutter spew, they are.


15 posted on 01/28/2016 2:19:01 PM PST by Original Lurker
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To: MichCapCon

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Hebrews 9:27-28

It is a surety folks.


16 posted on 01/28/2016 2:19:05 PM PST by refreshed
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To: mmichaels1970

our district schedules several meetings to vote and they continue until they wear the crowd down and the last vote which always passes has very little people attending becuase its in the early evening when these same poeple are coming home form work and unable to make it there in time


17 posted on 01/29/2016 3:03:25 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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