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1 posted on 11/29/2015 12:40:23 PM PST by NaturalBornConservative
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Similar to the “abolish the monarchy” crackpots of the 18th century. What wackos!


2 posted on 11/29/2015 12:41:45 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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First there’s Senator Ted Cruz, who might have a better shot if he used his real name,


So does this writer have the same animosity towards James Earl Carter, who always went by “Jimmy”, even when signing legislation or other legal documents????


3 posted on 11/29/2015 12:44:06 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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How did those crackpot Founding Fathers get along without the IRS?!

What wacko birds they were!


4 posted on 11/29/2015 12:46:19 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him.)
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5 posted on 11/29/2015 12:46:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Maybe someone would like to explain why we must have the IRS and how the nation survived till 1916 without it.


6 posted on 11/29/2015 12:46:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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Other countries seem to be able to collect taxes without a Fascist IRS.

What, you got relatives employed in the belly of the beast?


7 posted on 11/29/2015 12:47:10 PM PST by BereanBrain
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You might not be able to totally eliminate the Infernal Revenue Service, but you can certainly cut it down to a fraction of its current size and power.


8 posted on 11/29/2015 12:47:48 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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1. Solution. Left.


11 posted on 11/29/2015 12:53:19 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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You, Mr Dunham are no conservative. Therefore you have no business commenting on anything remotely relating to the original founding of America. No words from you or “wisdom” about limited government, or self rule are possible. You see, you worship at the altar of total government, only wishing to polish the “knobs” of your jailers.


12 posted on 11/29/2015 12:53:59 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If God himself said every 50 years debt should be erased, and land returned, who am I to disagree?)
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There's an awful lot of spying to catch up on. How about at least eight years of IRS control by the Tea Party before letting it wither on the vine? Only seems fair.

Lynch: Lois Lerner was protected by prosecutorial discretion

13 posted on 11/29/2015 12:55:02 PM PST by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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His Simple Flat Tax Postcard lumps all income onto one line, rendering it virtually impossible to verify. Apparently wages, interest, dividends, capital gains, rents, pensions, social security benefits, etc. are all one in his mind.

So now we get to see a glimpse inside this author's mind. He is so indoctrinated into the current, oppressive, Big-Brotherish system that he can't even fathom a world where the government doesn't track every move you make and catalog it. Why should we treat those categories of income differently? Income is income.

However, I would like to abolish the taxation of income simply because it necessarily leads to tracking of people's lives by the government. How do you verify that someone is telling the truth about their reported income? You have to have the employers report it, the banks report it, the stock brokers report it, etc. At the very least, we could have each individual state tax income (and do the tracking), then give a percentage to the fed. At least then, there would be no centralized Big Brother behemoth tracking everyone, no double-income taxation (fed and state), and states would have an incentive to keep their income taxes reasonable, or lose residents (or they could tax at a high rate on purpose to keep the riff-raff out).
15 posted on 11/29/2015 12:56:58 PM PST by fr_freak
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There once was a crackpot who thought that the Iron Curtain would come down.

A bunch of smart people told him he was delusional.

Gave a little speech where he said “Tear down this Wall”.

What became of that guy?


16 posted on 11/29/2015 12:57:14 PM PST by almcbean
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Candidates have near-term goals and long-range goals.

I don't think anybody's going to be disappointed because the next president doesn't abolish the IRS.

On second thought, some people probably will be, because they don't realize that major changes like that don't (and shouldn't) happen overnight.

Anyway, nobody should fault a candidate for raising awareness and getting a dialogue started that won't bear fruit for some time to come.

You have to start somewhere.

19 posted on 11/29/2015 1:00:08 PM PST by x
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OK, so we don’t abolish the IRS. We abolish everyone that works there.


20 posted on 11/29/2015 1:02:22 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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"let's face it, that's never ever going to happen"

Of course it won't if you give up before the attempt. At best, this is defeatism. At worst, it's more leftist crap.

22 posted on 11/29/2015 1:03:00 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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Nothing personal but your post is idiotic.

Clipped from FactSheet: The text of the United States Revenue Act of 1913, is generally considered to be the original tax code. Combined, these documents were approximately 27 pages in length, and the pages measured six by nine inches (under 20 pages normal paper).

Today that code is today is a 73,954 page, 25 - volume service called CCH Standard Federal Tax Reporter.

I doubt we need a 12.9 billion dollar IRS agency if the tax code was less than 20 pages. And no we don’t need an agency that goes after political enemies and so corrupt can not be fixed with tweaks, it must be destroyed.

By the way Cruz likely has 50 points of IQ on you (so quit the childish attacks) and if he thinks he can abolish and rebuild an abomination I am all for it.


23 posted on 11/29/2015 1:05:08 PM PST by BushCountry (Studies show that one out of three Liberals are as stupid as the other two.)
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Weak attempt at setting up a false premise and arguing from said premise.

Most proposals concerning the IRS have as a follow, “abolish the IRS as we know it”. Of course, as long as there are taxes there will be tax collectors (or a system designed to ensure that taxes are collected).

The IRS, as we know it, has evolved into much more than a system to collect taxes. And THAT system (including the massive tax code/regulations) needs to be abolished or reformed beyond all recognition.


26 posted on 11/29/2015 1:20:25 PM PST by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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Um, huh? Advocating for the IRS and a 73,000 page tax code here?

Sure you did not get lost on the way to some other site?


27 posted on 11/29/2015 1:27:47 PM PST by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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bflr


28 posted on 11/29/2015 1:29:00 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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It is also interesting that you don’t go after any Democrat’s tax ideas. Hmmm.

IBTZ?


29 posted on 11/29/2015 1:30:05 PM PST by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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