Don't worry George, my Homofascista shills are misdirecting as we speak.
Posted on 11/03/2015 4:03:32 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
I read awhile back that many military aircraft manufacturers distort aircraft data that is released to the general public, for security reasons. No surprise there. So I wonder how accurate that General Dynamics "fact" is.
VERY interesting
Don't worry George, my Homofascista shills are misdirecting as we speak.
ISIS made that video... that’s their music.
But I though they HATED music.... so confusing, these people
I understand- thanks Whiskey
choose 1:
1) The ISIS Insitute of Technology made the weapon.
or
2) It was it bought from the treasonous US State Dept
with money sent to Bill and Hillary Clinton.
I think the phrase “ external” used by the Russians referred to an outside actor and means of destruction, not anything “ internal” such as mechanical or human failure
They were not referring to an external explosion
At least some of The wreckage showed metal peeled from inside out indicating internal explosion
31k feet destruction is an unusual destruction altitude but has been noted an at least 2 other prominent terrorist bombings, including PanAm 103 and I read also Air India ..... Poss indicating barometric bomb
Not any known
The civil aviation flight altitude restrictions set over the region before this incident were 25,000 feet
“That fact that somebody videotaped the plane exploding and going down says a great deal. They obviously knew it was going to get hit.”
No, they didn’t. The ISIS claim and video is a very poor quality hoax. See for one of many examples:
Russian plane crash: Video claiming ISIS missile shot down Airbus branded ‘laughable’ by experts
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-plane-reported-egypt-after-6746384
There would have been ELINT from the associated radar
This would likely be detected easily in Egyptian territory with extensive Egyptian Israeli and UN/MFO monitoring
“The same intelligence report”
THAT worries me. Whose intelligence? American? I am not sure I trust American Intelligence organizations any more than I trust the BATFE. All of their track records over the past 25 years leave a lot to be desired.
At 31,000 feet and at speed and jet was flying away from the “shooter,” there is no possible way a heater (MANPAD) took that jet down. To be clear: no way at all, not physically possible.
Average max reach for a MANPAD is about 15,000 feet. (Specs here: http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=30)
A radar-guided SAM is required. They don't have those.
I watched a program on “Ghost Planes” and Maria Shiavo insisted that TWA 800 was brought down by frayed wired in the center fuel tank. Yet that could never be replicated which in my science days meant not possible. They truly think we are that dumb and eye witnesses don’t matter. She alone ruined the credibility of the program she was involved with.
TWA 800 was lower altitude and required a larger explosive
Nope. Not even close. Max altitude for our Stingers around 15,000’ and for the most “advanced” is about 18,000’
Another possibility:
“...SA-8 GECKO was used to down a cargo plane around Damascus by Syrian rebels last year which is highly mobile and has the range of 40,000 feet, well within distance of the reported height (36,000 ft).
http://therightscoop.com/heres-how-isis-could-have-shot-down-that-russian-airliner/
Something like this could have come from the US side, via the CIA Benghazi weapons bazaar... who knows what they were up to. And the Americans let a lot of Russian stuff go from Ghaddafi’s armory to the Islamists too... that’s on our, France, and UK’s hands.
According to Debka, ISIS control 3000 ft altitude positions that would have aided in reaching the plane.
’ ISIS sent officers, former senior members of Saddam Hussein’s army, to set up a major campaign against the Egyptian army, along with advanced anti-air missile systems smuggled into Sinai and the Gaza Strip FROM LIBYA for this campaign.
Anything coming out of Libya is our, France’s, and the UK’s fault- American built or not.
As a former A-10 fighter pilot I am quite aware of the threat from MANPADs as we usually flew low and were exposed to those types of threats, but at altitude, like 31,000’, heaters were of no concern.
Pretty darned accurate.
Not at 30’000 get they didnt
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