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Police On The Roof
The Aging Rebel ^ | 10/26/2015

Posted on 10/26/2015 8:30:13 PM PDT by Elderberry

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1 posted on 10/26/2015 8:30:13 PM PDT by Elderberry
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Waco Police Chief Brent Stroman said “We did not have snipers or counter-snipers deployed.

Yeah, they were merely sunning themselves and sipping iced tea up there. Snipers. Lemme guess, it's another depending on the definition of sniper. How about we all abide by Daniel Webster's definitions when dealing with the government.

2 posted on 10/26/2015 8:37:33 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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He may be playing a word game. The snipers could be from the ATF or some other police agency. Then again he could be lying.


3 posted on 10/26/2015 8:42:33 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Elderberry

We did not fire indiscriminately from…uh…into the crowd.”


So does this mean they fired ‘deliberately’ into the crowd?


4 posted on 10/26/2015 9:44:51 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Elderberry

Look at the autopsy reports yourself. Only one wound in all of them was other than .223. Facts are facts. I don’t see anyone alleging the bikers had rifles.


5 posted on 10/26/2015 10:00:37 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Elderberry
“In the months leading up to the occurrence in question, prior altercations on ‘Bike Nights’ occurred; and a neighboring restaurant to the Waco Twin Peaks location voiced concerns about the safety of these biker themed events. Twin Peaks knew the danger presented in ‘Bike Nights.’

There is a fundamental flaw in their statement alleging justification for the whole operation.

This wasn't a 'bike night', it was a CoC&I meeting.

The latter are known for being peaceful assemblies, as they address issues common to all motorcyclists, often issues with legislation or current statute, but also to coordinate run schedules to eliminate scheduling conflicts, and to note road construction/ongoing hazards.

By intentionally confusing the type of event, the attempt to justify the whole operation is skating on thin ice.

6 posted on 10/26/2015 11:53:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: chaosagent
Was going to say "up there on the roof" but caught his self.

As he would say in Texas.

7 posted on 10/26/2015 11:59:39 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: wastoute
The Medical Examiner measures wounds, not bullets.

Wounds may exhibit swelling and abrasions as well as different levels of skin stretch.

The size of the entrance wound is controlled as much by angle of impact as the size of the projectile. Exit wounds, should they exist, are poor determinants because of bullet fragmentation, expansion, instability (tumbling and deflection), and are commonly larger than the projectile's original diameter.

Wound size alone is not a solid determinant, although it can be supportive data.

A far more definitive assessment can be made with ballistics data from the recovered projectiles and fragments from the deceased, wounded, and from the surroundings in the instance of through and through wounds.

Bullet type, weight, composition, diameter (caliber) can all be determinants as to the caliber of firearm, and ballistics markings may identify the firearm by type or even the individual firearm of origin if that has been tested for comparison.

Unfortunately, this ballistics data has not been released, even though there has been considerable time to analyze the physical evidence.

Without that data, it is difficult to definitively state who was shot by whom.

The agencies involved are aware of this.

8 posted on 10/27/2015 12:09:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

They are complicit


9 posted on 10/27/2015 12:13:06 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: going hot
They are trying to run out the attention span clock.

They picked the wrong people for that play.

10 posted on 10/27/2015 12:17:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

True. I still check on more info every day or two and will until true justice is done. I don’t always comment because I don’t always have something to add which I’m sure many others do as well.


11 posted on 10/27/2015 12:29:18 AM PDT by Boomer (Politically Incorrect and proud of it. Hillary is like Herpes. The gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Did I say size of the hole? The injury caused by above the speed of sound projectiles is easily distinguished from subsonic. All but one GSW among the nine dead were NOT handgun wounds.


12 posted on 10/27/2015 4:06:26 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

As I said in the beginning, months ago, if Kent State and Ludlow are any standard, it will be YEARS and they will not reveal everything even then and when “concluded” a few peons will get a wrist slap. For murder. Cuz when the gummint does it it ain’t such a big deal.


13 posted on 10/27/2015 4:10:06 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Elderberry

Occupy Rooftops


14 posted on 10/27/2015 4:12:02 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Elderberry

Ibtg


15 posted on 10/27/2015 4:31:16 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Elderberry

Go to:

http://blog.chron.com/narcoconfidential/2015/10/last-jailed-biker-expected-to-be-released-after-twin-peaks-melee/

And see picture of the snipers on the Don Carlos roof.

Because of the long lens on the camera there’s a perspective distortion that makes it seem they’re on the Twin Peaks roof, but they’re not.


16 posted on 10/27/2015 4:43:22 AM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Just my opinion and only worth what you paid for it.)
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To: Elderberry

So, the cops admit not following protocol by deploying support (snipers) in case things got ugly......


17 posted on 10/27/2015 4:51:53 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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I was Googling Matthew Mark Smith for more information and I came across this pdf on the shooting. Its old, but I don’t remember seeing it.

http://radiolegendary.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/WSEvidence.pdf


18 posted on 10/27/2015 6:40:54 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: trebb

Refer to post sixteen.


19 posted on 10/27/2015 7:57:19 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: trebb
So, the cops admit not following protocol by deploying support (snipers) in case things got ugly......

There's that along side Chief of Police stating that ALL of his men were sitting in their vehicles when the first shots were fired. There's sworn testimony of ominous movement from Cossacks from the patio advancing toward arriving Bandidos. And His men sat in their vehicles.

There's a whole bunch of dogs NOT barking.

20 posted on 10/27/2015 8:36:09 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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