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The Ramos Rules: "Undocumented immigrants" should be treated like those who came legally.
The Center for Immigration Studies - Low Immigration, Pro-Immigrnt ^ | October 7, 2015 | Jerry Kammer

Posted on 10/07/2015 4:00:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In an interview with Terry Gross for her "Fresh Air" program on NPR Monday, Univision anchorman Jorge Ramos provided a glimpse into his reasoning on immigration. As seen in the excerpts below, Ramos makes no distinction between "undocumented immigrants" and legal immigrants. He believes that since Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Ted Cruz (R-Texas) are Latinos whose parents immigrated to the United States they should support illegal immigration. It is irrelevant to Ramos that that their parents came legally. Here it is clear that Ramos's argument benefits from the change in terminology for the national immigration discussion. The term "immigrant" was long used in a way consistent with its meaning under federal law, which defines an immigrant as someone admitted for residence in the United States. Those who were once identified as "illegal aliens" are now covered under the linguistic umbrella of "immigrants". Ramos has made his reporting a crusade for the proposition that both groups should be covered by the same legal protections.

In his second response, Ramos deftly shifts the discussion away from the conduct of the "undocumented". He assigns responsibility for illegal immigration not to the immigrants themselves, but to the Americans who hired them. He also suggests that society as a whole is responsible for illegal immigration

Ramos on Rubio and Cruz: "They are not defending undocumented immigrants. And therefore they are allowing people to attack 11 million people who at some point were just like their parents. And that's very difficult to understand."

Gross: Wouldn't they say that their parents came legally, and stayed legally?

Ramos: Yes, but also we have to understand that we all come from immigrant families. And I really can't understand how someone who gets to this country decides at one point to close the door to those who came after them. I do understand that 11 million people came illegally, that they broke the law by coming to this country or by staying in this country after their visas expired. However, we also have to take responsibility. And we don't do that publicly. We have to take responsibility because there are thousands of American companies who hired them. In other words, they didn't come here to go to Disneyland. They came here to work. They came here to do the jobs that nobody else wants to do.

Next: A look at what Ramos said about his philosophy of talking with those who disagree with him on immigration.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigration; ramos
There's that "11 million" figure again.
1 posted on 10/07/2015 4:00:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A half to full million entering every year for decades.

They must be falling into a big hole somewhere in Nevada.


2 posted on 10/07/2015 4:03:05 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

La Raza must be proud, very proud indeed, of this imperious Hispanic man.

IMHO


3 posted on 10/07/2015 4:07:01 PM PDT by ripley
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To: ripley

He is very well-compensated.


4 posted on 10/07/2015 4:08:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re not undocumented — They have plenty of fraudulently obtained documents.


5 posted on 10/07/2015 4:13:04 PM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In my neighborhood, every single day, homeless American people carrying large garbage bags, thin and dirty, come by to go through garbage cans looking for aluminum cans to sell. Their stories are quite sad, they have lost their homes, lost their jobs, unemployment benefits has run out. They toil many hours a day for a total of perhaps $20 if they are lucky. They live on the streets, they get one meal every other day from St. Vincents . There are far too many of them. I am quite certain they would love to be hotel maids or work in a meat packing plant. I do not believe in this day and age, there is any job that some homeless and desperate American would not take. We need to send these people home; how can we be so neglectful of our own? We the people should be ashamed of ourselves for electing such irresponsible leaders who pander to the illegals and do not represent the best interests of our own people.

I, and most of my neighbors also, by the way, do sort out our aluminum trash from the rest of our garbage, and put them in bags alongside the garbage cans. They are always gone within an hour or so. It is a small thing to do, and please consider doing this.


6 posted on 10/07/2015 4:14:09 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Ramos, here is the United States law on the matter:

Persons who are citizens of other countries and who cross into the U.S. illegally are outside of U.S. law.


7 posted on 10/07/2015 4:17:58 PM PDT by Vic S
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WHorehay Ramos said on National Television that he VOTES in Every Election in Mexico and Votes in Elections in the US. I thought when you were granted CITIZENSHIP in the US , it was a requirement to renounce your prior allegiances to a FOREIGN Country.

Can’t we have his citizenship REVOKED and DEPORT Whorehay Ramos??


8 posted on 10/07/2015 4:21:49 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What next? Bank robbers should be treated just like a customer that’s there to make a withdrawl?


9 posted on 10/07/2015 4:22:42 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Enough of this nonsense. Criminals and their supporters need to be to driven out of this nation. No further discussion on the matter.


10 posted on 10/07/2015 4:47:34 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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I agree with the Ramos Rules but only with this caveat:
that the illegal alien invaders be subjected to the legal Rule of Law, and since by Ramos Rule definition they are "illegal" then their crime (illegal entry) should be reversed by the swift deportation of ALL illegal alien invaders.
11 posted on 10/08/2015 5:13:32 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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