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Dylann Roof and Vester Flanagan: Compare and Contrast
Powerline ^ | August 27, 2015 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 08/28/2015 5:30:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

We now know that Vester Flanagan was a sort of mirror image of Dylann Roof: black instead of white, gay instead of straight, but like Roof a nut with a cause. Like Roof, Flanagan’s cause was race. Flanagan was race-obsessed and, like Roof, wanted to incite a race war.

I agree with Hugh Hewitt that it is a mistake to pay attention to “manifestos” left behind by insane killers. It only encourages them. But if we are going to take seriously the ideology of lunatics, it must be a two-way street. Dylann Roof’s racist ideology was taken very seriously, to the point where Confederate flags came down across the South. In Flanagan’s case, the focus is on gun control rather than his equally racist ideology.

Flanagan was consumed with race hatred, and was disciplined by the television station for which he worked at the time for, among other things, wearing a Barack Obama button while he stood in line to vote. So why do we not retroactively conclude that images of Barack Obama are hateful, like the Confederate flag, and must be banned? Glenn Reynolds asks, “Will Obama apologize for the behavior of one of his followers?” Of course not. But imagine if a racist white killer who worked for a television station had been similarly disciplined for wearing, say, a Ted Cruz button. Do you not think that fact would be deemed highly relevant, and highly embarrassing to Senator Cruz?

The Dylann Roof case was actually interesting from the standpoint of firearms regulation. The FBI said that Roof should not have been allowed to purchase a gun because he had a misdemeanor arrest for possession of Suboxone. The FBI said that an error was made in running the background check when Roof bought his gun. Whether this conclusion is correct or not is debatable, but the case could have been used to shed light on the biggest problem with firearms regulation: the list of prohibited persons is inadequate, and insane people like Dylann Roof and Vester Flanagan keep passing background checks. This is why liberals’ endless cry for “universal background checks” is futile. But the Left had no interest in gun regulation after the Roof murders. It was after bigger game.

Conversely, in the aftermath of Vester Flanagan’s appalling crime, liberals have no desire to explore the roots of Flanagan’s hateful ideology. No one is blaming President Obama or suggesting that he should take responsibility for dividing the nation along racial lines, for the sake of political gain. No one is saying that the Black Lives Matter movement should disband, and stop stirring up race hate. Instead, the focus is on demands for more gun control, however useless the liberals’ prescriptions may be. The difference between the two cases is entirely political.

For what it is worth, if one wants to discuss the Flanagan case from the perspective of public policy, the issue it raises is not one of inadequate gun control, but rather, the absence of an effective mental health system. Vester Flanagan was nutty as a fruitcake, but his evident insanity only got him fired from a succession of jobs. (How he continued to be hired in television positions where he was exposed to the public is an interesting question.)

Once employers washed their hands of him, Flanagan’s craziness seemingly had no consequences. As he drifted into a homicidal rage, either no one noticed or, at any rate, no one took any action to protect the public from him. The patently crazy roam the streets unless and until they finally explode in violent acts. This is why the largest mental hospitals in the U.S. are in prisons.

This is, of course, a large subject, and most insane people never do harm to anyone else. But the fact that Americans can be crazy without consequences, seemingly indefinitely, is the real explanation for crimes like Flanagan’s.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: dylannroof; obama; tedcruz; vesterflanagan; vesterleeflanagan
"How he continued to be hired in television positions where he was exposed to the public is an interesting question..."

The author is a lawyer, so I know he's not that stupid.

1 posted on 08/28/2015 5:30:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Get on the phone now and insist that Walmart and Amazon stop selling the evil rainbow flag that causes hate crimes.


2 posted on 08/28/2015 5:34:03 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

White, confederate - guilt by association

Black, racist - free pass


3 posted on 08/28/2015 5:36:21 AM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Correct. He poses it as a rhetorical question. He knows the answer as well as you and I. By not saying it outright he avoids having to deal with left-wing racists.


4 posted on 08/28/2015 5:37:22 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if this fruitcake had one of those rainbow flags over his facebook picture.


5 posted on 08/28/2015 5:41:58 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Insigne123
White, confederate - guilt by association

More like:

White - guilty

6 posted on 08/28/2015 6:03:15 AM PDT by cowboyway (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The racist who shot Alison Parker and Adam Ward is a product of LIBERALISM, and not guns. What would Liberals have said, if he had run them down in cars? We don’t need gun control, we need LIBERAL control! http://theblacksphere.net


7 posted on 08/28/2015 6:35:27 AM PDT by weezel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've read an assertion that Dylan Roof is also homosexual.

If true, that makes the two of them alike in regards to a tendency towards violence.

8 posted on 08/28/2015 6:36:39 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Roof didn’t specifically target all his victims. He targeted a location and a person and killed every person in the room. Roof didn’t know his target personally.

Flanagan was a revenge killing although an inane one.

What do all mass killers have in common? They all destroy their hard drive before committing the crime. This breaks the link between them and anyone they may have conspired with.


9 posted on 08/28/2015 6:42:03 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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