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1 posted on 08/07/2015 8:28:43 AM PDT by w1n1
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Range? Check out the “mini grenades” with the AA12.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV379084djs


2 posted on 08/07/2015 8:36:24 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Rifled aluminum slugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG7X0AYpVaU


3 posted on 08/07/2015 8:39:39 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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We used shotguns when I was on gunboats in Nam when searching boats or barges in the harbor and other close quarters work. They aren’t much use at any kind of range over a few yards.


4 posted on 08/07/2015 8:47:19 AM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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Shotguns are good for wing shooting and hallway clearing, not much else. And I love shotguns. No range unless you want to be launching a slug.


5 posted on 08/07/2015 8:52:55 AM PDT by freedomlover
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Saiga shotgun based on the AK platform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD0PKDGlwiw
6 posted on 08/07/2015 8:55:50 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Gen. Childers is a good guy and I like a lot of his ideas. I am a combat shotgun fan because most engagements occur either very close or very far away. The up close stuff is the most common and the shotgun is far superior to a submachinegun:

1. An 8-round magazine load of 12 gauge 00 buckshot is 72 9mm-size soft lead slugs. A 9mm submachinegun has about 30 rounds of hardball available per magazine.

2. When a submachinegun is out of loaded magazines, reloading will take time. Just about as ugly as running out of ammo in a firefight. Shotguns can be replenished while it still has a round in the chamber, ready to fire as needed.

3. Submachineguns rise fast while being fired. If you haven’t got a solid stance, rounds #2 through #10 end up above your target. Shotguns recoil but all their pellets are going together to your aim point.

4. Shotguns are flexible. You can load them with everything from breaching plugs to FRAG-12 grenades for a very wide span of effects.

5. You can still beat your adversary to death with a shotgun. Much harder to do with a submachine gun.


8 posted on 08/07/2015 9:19:51 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Later


9 posted on 08/07/2015 9:26:59 AM PDT by gaijin
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Joe Biden likes his double barrel for shootin them crooks through the front door.


10 posted on 08/07/2015 9:39:10 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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WWI Germans objected to our use of the Winchester 1897 in the trenches. Winchester 1897 trench sweeper photo: 1897 Winchester Pump Shotgun IMG_0077_zpsc57b0eb5.jpg
11 posted on 08/07/2015 9:58:47 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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15 posted on 08/07/2015 11:19:07 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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