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This Citizens for Self Governance proposal is the best of the Convention of States proposals IMO. The problem is it is a top-down solution requiring aggregate precision and federal cooperation. IMO, aggregate precision is improbable and the feds are beyond remedy. A Convention of States or your favorite candidate as President will not be able to flip the $4 trillion federal beast, $3 trillion of which is unconstitutional and illegal.

This federal beast with two heads has gradually grown over the last 125 years into an unmanageable, gargantuan problem. One head represents the sheer size of this monster. Cutting it down to constitutional size would mean dissolving most cabinet posts with their bloated bureaucratic departments and dissolving the "Administrative State" of these hideous regulatory agencies. The other head represents 125 years of unconstitutional SCOTUS decisions giving the beast its apparent power and authority. Both heads must be destroyed to kill the beast.

The feds are beyond repair at this point. They don't want to get fixed - they like things as they are. By definition, a fixed federal government is a constitutional federal government. But who or what has the power to send hundreds of thousands of government workers, bureaucratic heads, and officials home packing without a job?

No, we've got to abandon the idea of fixing the feds at least from the top down. The solution needs to come from the bottom up - from individuals and their own states. I believe the fight for freedom at this point is beyond offense moves against the feds. I think we are in a defensive position at this point and each state that cares to needs to circle the wagons.

We're further down the road than we want to believe. This country began on the premise of God-given individual rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I think the answer needs to start right there: with the individual. Individuals need to decide for themselves whether they want to be free or under tyranny. If enough individuals in a state want freedom and the reinstatement of the Constitution as the Supreme law of the Land, then that state must begin to implement freedom for itself by renouncing and nullifying unconstitutional federal acts which by definition are acts of tyranny. And in doing so, they must justify such nullification by showing the constitutional basis for rejecting among other things 1) the unconstitutional "Incorporation Doctrine", 2) the unconstitutionally broad application of the Commerce Clause, and 3) the unconstitutional silencing of the "PROPER" portion of the Necessary and Proper Clause.

One state at a time. It's literally a fight for freedom at the grass roots, one state at a time. Forget about a top-down aggregate solution and forget about the feds. States need to circle the wagons. This is a defensive move to fight for freedom. Individuals and states need to act NOW, not wait for someone else or some kind of convention.

1 posted on 08/01/2015 5:03:21 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
Nullification by a state is a constitutional dead end.

The way to stop horrible ideas before they become law is to prevent their passage, and that means restoration of the federal republic.

Repeal the 17th to restore the 10th.

2 posted on 08/01/2015 5:12:39 PM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V before we can't.)
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