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To: grey_whiskers

>>”Next time Hillary bleats about a “war on women...””<<

Two things:

1) Hillary is by No means an advocate of ‘war on women..’ — not for those who understand, see and know the reality of the situation, in this instance, in Iran.

Besides, in practice & ideology, ‘war on women..’, or some say ‘feminism’, is very different in the M.E. (muslim world) than the West - it’s not comparable. Vastly different stage of maturity & development.

Hillary, since she happens to be a female, uses/has used that narrative for own political purpose. OR, her grasp of the situation in the M.E. vis a vis the West is pathetic.

2) Neda’s murder was a very tragic event. But not an isolated one in Iran. Seemingly, some sniper very publicly shot her; I believe it was done deliberately too. Otherwise, Neda was a political nobody.

I supported the 2009 “green revolution”, at first. Until it became very apparent that although non-Islamic Iranian groups joined the movement, the movement or so-called ‘ green revolution’ clearly belonged to the Islamic Reformists in Iran.

The Islamic Reformists, back then at least (2009), were part & parcel of the Khomeinist regime; to the extent that they actively went on a physical offensive when they saw another Iranian group carrying a traditional, PRE-Khomeini flag of Iran - that alone said volumes.

The Islamic Reformists are a faction of the overall Islamic Republic Regime, who, in 2009, wanted more freedom, and disputed Ahmadi-Nejad’s election - IOW, the Islamic reformists faction were against the Islamic hardline faction.

Personally, I don’t want a ‘milder’ Islamic group running the country of Iran. And, if anyone thought they could use the Islamic Reformists as a springboard to a more secular gov’t in Iran, they are very much mistaken.


17 posted on 07/21/2015 10:08:31 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds
Two things: 1) Hillary is by No means an advocate of ‘war on women..’ — not for those who understand, see and know the reality of the situation, in this instance, in Iran. Besides, in practice & ideology, ‘war on women..’, or some say ‘feminism’, is very different in the M.E. (muslim world) than the West - it’s not comparable. Vastly different stage of maturity & development. Hillary, since she happens to be a female, uses/has used that narrative for own political purpose. OR, her grasp of the situation in the M.E. vis a vis the West is pathetic.

Right. When Hillary bleats about the "War on Women" we shove this down her throat.

I knew you'd get to my point eventually. Thanks. 2) Neda’s murder was a very tragic event. But not an isolated one in Iran. Seemingly, some sniper very publicly shot her; I believe it was done deliberately too. Otherwise, Neda was a political nobody.

How often do most totalitarian states *lead off* by shooting down women like dogs? Very bad PR optics.

Personally, I don’t want a ‘milder’ Islamic group running the country of Iran. And, if anyone thought they could use the Islamic Reformists as a springboard to a more secular gov’t in Iran, they are very much mistaken.

I got the impression that *everyone* had a dog in the fight -- supposed "the youth" were secular, westernized, and would have welcomed representative government : recall that even Egypt didn't go fully Islamic. A word of encouragement, of tacit support, under-the-table behind the scenes effort, would have done wonders. But Obama went to vacation in Martha's Vineyard or some such while civilians were being shot by snipers. Deliberate neglect: kind of like the GOP-e do to conservatives: but Obama didn't even mouth the correct platitudes. And now he's given the Mullahs a green light to the bomb.

18 posted on 07/21/2015 10:50:55 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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