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MA: Where lack of Open Carry Leads
Gun Watch ^ | 15 July, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/17/2015 8:40:17 AM PDT by marktwain


In some countries, such as Israel and Switzerland, it is common to see people walking around with slung military rifles.  No one except tourists pay much attention.  The United States is split.  In areas where the gun culture is entrenched and accepted (most of the land area of the U.S.) nobody pays much attention, but it is more unusual than in Switzerland.  In areas where the gun culture is reviled by the local powers that be, it can land you in trouble. 

There are five states that ban the open carry of firearms in most public places.  They  are are New York, Illinois, California, Florida, and South Carolina.  Texas just changed their law about openly carrying modern handguns, but it will not go into effect until 1 January, 2016.  Some states, while it is legal to openly carry with a permit, such as New Jersey and Massachusetts, administratively make it difficult to do so without provoking the ire of the authorities. 

When the right is unused, it withers away and eventually becomes inoperative.  A classic case of how far we have dumbed down as a society is illustrated by this event in Massachusetts, where a punk rocker was arrested for wearing a fake ammunition belt.  

Even if the ammo had been "live", there is no law against carrying it.  Anyone with the slightest knowledge of firearms knows that the ammunition by itself, is harmless.  From the picture, it is clear that young man is not carrying an M60 machine gun, that the ammunition belt would feed. 

Here is what his attire resulted in.   From Boston Police Department news:

At about 4:20 PM on Friday July 10, 2015, officers assigned to District D-14 (Brighton) responded to a call for a person with a gun on an MBTA bus in the area of Cambridge and Harvard Streets. Officers learned that the driver had pulled the bus over as passengers began calling 911 when a male suspect boarded the bus with what appeared to be military grade ammunition strapped around his waist. The driver stated that the passengers were in a panic, fearing that the suspect was about to pull out a weapon. The suspect, later identified as Kevin Young, 26, of Watertown, exited the bus and was stopped by police on Penniman Road at which time it was discovered that the ammunition was fake. Officers recovered 69 replica bullets in all. The suspect was wearing what was described as spiked fighting gloves and spiked leather bracelets.

The suspect was placed in custody and will appear in Brighton District Court on charges of Unlawful Possession of Ammunition, Unlawfully Carried Dangerous Weapon and Disorderly Conduct.
Wiser heads prevailed.  The charges were dropped, according to myfoxboston.com:
“Based on the totality of circumstances, however, including confirmation that the cartridges on said belt could not and weren't intended to be fired, prosecutors dismissed the charges at arraignment in Brighton Municipal Court,” the Suffolk County District Attorney said.
That is where the unwillingness to exercise your rights leads.  Eventually, the public is so brainwashed by the lack of exposure, that it succumbs to the ever present propaganda of the disarmist news organizations.   Imagine "people panicking" over someone wearing an ammunition belt, fake or real.   As some have noted, this sort of dress was quite common in the 1980's.   From mediaequalizer.com:
In other words, Young dressed like millions of guys did in 1982, but nobody ever thought to call the police on that basis alone.
The prosecutor likely cut the losses, but it might be hoped that Kevin Young, the man in the ammo belt, would seek out a lawyer for a 42 U.S.C. 1983 action based on false arrest.  As open carriers all over the country have found, if you want to exercise your rights, you have to be willing to enforce them, at least until the police are educated.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; bulletbelt; ma; opencarry
If he were carrying a duffle bag, he could have an M-60, grenades, a grenade launcher, and plenty of ammunition.

Add an umbrella, and that is exactly what the Tunisian mass killer did.

An no one would say "boo".

The fear of openly displayed weapons is a pavlovian response created by the media and academics.

1 posted on 07/17/2015 8:40:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Brighton” has been tragically and ironically mis-named for a number of years.


2 posted on 07/17/2015 8:48:14 AM PDT by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
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To: marktwain
There are five states that ban the open carry of firearms in most public places. They are are New York, Illinois, California, Florida, and South Carolina.

Is the author saying you can open carry in Maryland without a permit? I find that very hard to believe.

3 posted on 07/17/2015 8:50:03 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

No, you can legally open carry in Maryland with a permit, but the authorities discourage it through other means.

A similar situation exists in other states such as Massachusetts and New Jersey. But licensed open carry is legal in those states.


4 posted on 07/17/2015 8:55:23 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Even if the ammo had been "live", there is no law against carrying it.

But in DC you face jail time for possession of a single spent shell casing.

5 posted on 07/17/2015 8:57:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: marktwain

“spiked fighting gloves and spiked leather bracelets”

That’s the only thing that they have him on, MGL 269 Sec 10.

2 1/2 - 5 years.


6 posted on 07/17/2015 9:05:04 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: marktwain

At the time RKBA was enumerated, unlicensed open carry was the norm and concealed carry was presumptive evidence of criminal intent (unless duly licenced). Now it’s reversed.


7 posted on 07/17/2015 9:20:53 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: marktwain

But, since it’s impossible to get a permit in the People’s Republic of Maryland, it’s sort of a moot point.


8 posted on 07/17/2015 9:41:07 AM PDT by cyclotic ( Check out traillifeusa.com. America's premier boys outdoor organization)
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To: marktwain
Some states, while it is legal to openly carry with a permit, such as New Jersey...

I have to check that statement for accuracy.

OK, check completed. From an article in 02/2014 in NOLA's Times-Picayune:

Last summer, a federal appeals court in Philadelphia ruled against a New Jersey resident who challenged his home state's concealed carry permitting law.

New Jersey does not issue such permits unless the applicant has "demonstrated a justifiable need to carry a handgun" including providing evidence of "the urgent necessity for self-protection, as evidenced by specific threats or previous attacks." Open carry is allowed only with a concealed carry permit.

What do those morons in Trenton and on the courts fail to understand about SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED?

9 posted on 07/17/2015 10:12:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: marktwain

There are many places in the US that open carry should not be encouraged.

Especially those that are populated by a demographic with poor impulse control.


10 posted on 07/17/2015 10:22:43 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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