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"One big miscalculation was that the power plant requires far more steam to run smoothly and efficiently than originally thought, according to a document filed with the California Energy Commission. Instead of ramping up the plant each day before sunrise by burning one hour’s worth of natural gas to generate steam, Ivanpah needs more than four times that much help from fossil fuels to get plant humming every morning." MARKETWATCH

1 posted on 06/16/2015 10:20:46 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I have read that the whole area smells like fried chicken.


2 posted on 06/16/2015 10:28:56 AM PDT by HChampagne
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Not only are solar plants death rays for wild life, but isn't water vapor a far more potent greenhouse gas than CO2? And for all this, solar power produces only a fraction of the power that's actually needed. Yep, just tell them it's "green" and the liberal drones will nod their heads in agreement.
3 posted on 06/16/2015 10:29:59 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
They need to redesign the thing so that only infrared light is reflected and aimed at the tower.

No bright light from the beams, no insects, no brids, no raptors getting fried. Except maybe some hummingbirds and some bees that see in infrared.
But hey, TANSTAAFL.

5 posted on 06/16/2015 10:42:06 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It is never untimely to yank the rope of freedom's bell." - - Frank Capra)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Will this monstrosity ever pay for itself?


9 posted on 06/16/2015 10:47:25 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Eliminating the pesky bird problem in Southern California to be emulate wherever people are sick of bird droppings on their Priuses.


11 posted on 06/16/2015 11:17:40 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Ivanpah Solar Described as Deadly Trap for Wildlife

Not much different than "wind farms". The "law of unintended consequences" can not be avoided.

Regards,
GtG

14 posted on 06/16/2015 11:57:10 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The economics of “solar power” escapes me. If there has to be stand-by power at all times to make sure there is some degree of reliability to the system, then essentially there have to be TWO parallel generation systems. And if the parallel system has to be built anyway, why bother with the inefficient and unreliable system at all?

Now, it there is a demand for a zero-pollution system for power generation, I submit that widespread development of Thorium fueled Molten-Salt nuclear power plants should be the technology that should be pursued. But so far, there is superstitious dread being stirred up against such a development.

There are a number of advantages to using Thorium-fueled Molten-salt nuclear reactor, in terms of safety, economy and flexibility of application. Every objection raised to the adoption of Thorium-fueled Molten-salt nuclear reactors can be answered,, and the cost-benefit ratio is VASTLY better than any reliance on wind or solar, and is even better than natural gas-fired power generation plants.


16 posted on 06/16/2015 12:10:51 PM PDT by alloysteel ("Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement..." Ronald Reagan)
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I frequently read references to birds burned or incinerated by these solar plants, but I wonder what the distances are where the birds are not burned but are blinded by the light and what becomes of them. It must be something like looking at the sun through a magnifying glass.


24 posted on 06/16/2015 5:08:33 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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In that case, a Hillary presidency will be a coast-to-coast death trap for birds!

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25 posted on 06/16/2015 5:33:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cancer-free since 1988! US out of UN! UN out of US!)
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