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Response to a Young Gay Man, and Being Made to Care
Charting Course ^ | 4/2/15 | Steve Berman

Posted on 04/02/2015 7:19:34 AM PDT by lifeofgrace

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To: lifeofgrace

Celebrate us or we will destroy you.


21 posted on 04/02/2015 1:59:27 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: 7thson
Your answers are in the links above.
God is VERYT CLEAR on WHAT TO DO about HOMOSEXUALS !
22 posted on 04/02/2015 3:13:07 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I am not a good person to comment on this issue, but here goes.

I have a business interest with two gay partners. Have known them for a very long time. All I can say is that at least they’re still in business—even if I am not seeing profits.

I have a close relative who was married to a gay person. They divorced over it. She never remarried and was crushed overall. He was one of the first people in her area of the country to die of AIDS. She knew him and helped care for him that entire time. Following his death, his family denied her benefits he’d prescribed.

I also have a close friend who was married for 20 years to a man who turned out to be gay. He has now ruined 3 lives, including hers, his, and his child, who lives in the basement and will not be moved...at the age of over 30 years old.

The argument over gays and Christians sits hard on me. To me, the gay experience of these lives is decidedly and willfully anti-Christian.


23 posted on 04/02/2015 3:29:44 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: alexander_busek
In fact, there are even logical and moral limits to God's power - including His power to answer prayer).

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There are no limits to God's power.

24 posted on 04/02/2015 3:35:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

bump


25 posted on 04/02/2015 3:37:53 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEALY CRUZ 2016)
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To: combat_boots

I have worked with homosexuals and for them and never had any problems. I grew up with a guy who was lured into homosexuality when he was about 14 by a man 35. He took care of him like his parents never did. All of them have different stories and some I feel very sorry for. That being said, I have no “tolerance” for those who will stop at nothing to destroy Christians.

On an aside, this article is interesting:

12 Popular Tourist Destinations That Are Surprisingly Anti Gay

http://www.destinationtips.com/advice/12-popular-tourist-destinations-anti-gay/11/


26 posted on 04/02/2015 4:15:20 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: AppyPappy

Acceptable to whom?


27 posted on 04/02/2015 4:16:06 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: trisham
In fact, there are even logical and moral limits to God's power - including His power to answer prayer).

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There are no limits to God's power.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. However, it would have been nice if you had provided some logical argument to support it, rather than simply stating it as though we should accept it as an unfalsifiable axiom.

In contradistinction to Kalâm thinkers, philosophers agree that God cannot violate the laws of non-contradiction. According to Maimonides, all are agreed that even God cannot make it be the case that contraries can come together at the same instant, at the same time, and the same place; nor can God effect the transmutation of substances (from accident into substance, or substance into accident, or substance without accident). Nor can God bring into existence another omnipotent Deity, nor can God annihilate Himself, or become a body. These are all instances of logical impossibilities and "the power to do any of these things cannot be attributed to God" (GP 3.15:460). Where philosophers disagree is over more ambiguous cases, such as creating an accident that exists alone without a substance, or creating a corporeal thing "out of no matter whatever." The former example is adduced by the Mu'tazilites as possible, while the latter is adduced by Maimonides himself as possible, but by the Aristotelian philosophers as impossible. – Maimonides, by T.M. Rudavsky

Regards,

28 posted on 04/03/2015 9:59:02 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Yosemitest

I do not understand. Can you tell me what God wants me to do about homosexuals?


29 posted on 04/03/2015 11:54:39 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson
God tells you.
Read the links above, or verify those links from your own Bible.
30 posted on 04/03/2015 8:01:35 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

I have read them and I still do not understand. Please help me. What exactly is God saying.


31 posted on 04/03/2015 8:51:11 PM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson

I think he is ashamed to share what God says to do about homosexuals. Does that mean he, too, is guilty of homosexuality?


32 posted on 04/03/2015 9:07:37 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: 7thson
What part of Lev 20:13 do you not understand?

What part of Romans 1:32 do you not understand?


33 posted on 04/03/2015 11:25:05 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Teacher317
What part of Romans 1:16 do you not understand ?
34 posted on 04/03/2015 11:28:42 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 7thson
I have read them and I still do not understand. Please help me. What exactly is God saying.

Oh, you're a sly one!

Regards,

35 posted on 04/03/2015 11:53:48 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: lifeofgrace; windcliff; stylecouncilor; raven92876

I usually give two reasons for condemning homosexual behavior.

The first is ancient Greece in which pedophilia was a lifestyle. As this would have naturally crossed over, in many cases, into adult homosexuality, why didn’t the Greeks (and Romans to a like extent) ever raise the idea of homosexual marriage beyond a certain minority viewpoint?

I see the answer as the realization that it would have wreaked their whole societies even sooner than other socio-economic factors did anyway.

The other reason is the Jewish admonitions which I adhere to as gifting us with the concept of civilization with which American society could never have advanced so far - or even been founded - without its related Christian components.

What gifts that as a so-called “modern” society that we’ve become so anxious to squander.


36 posted on 04/04/2015 12:21:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: lifeofgrace
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Matthew 22:36-40
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The Word of God is never contradictory.

37 posted on 04/04/2015 1:11:59 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: lifeofgrace
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Matthew 22:36-40
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The Word of God is never contradictory.

38 posted on 04/04/2015 1:12:23 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: trisham

Amen


39 posted on 04/04/2015 1:14:24 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: alexander_busek

Luke 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.


40 posted on 04/04/2015 1:20:20 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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