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To: faithhopecharity

Permits aren’t required for open carry in Michigan. I’ve never understood the reason for needing one for concealed carry.


11 posted on 03/04/2015 4:56:06 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: cripplecreek

that’s good about open carry....congrats!
there is no conceivable excuse for the state to try to impose a permit requirement on a constitutionally-protected activity...not with our Constitution and not with the history that went into the writing of that cornerstone social contract for our society

nevertheless, the progress in Michigan is good news...
every small step forward is still a step forward
thanks


12 posted on 03/04/2015 5:02:21 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: cripplecreek

“Permits aren’t required for open carry in Michigan. I’ve never understood the reason for needing one for concealed carry.”

Most of the concealed carry bans were meant to keep certain groups of people from being armed. These were those considered outside of mainstream society, slaves, then freed blacks, hispanics in Texas and California, Chinese and Japanese, and Eastern European immigrants. All of the “right people” understood that these laws were not to be applied to the white middle and upper classes. But over time, the elites got scared, particularly in the early 1900s and in the middle 1960s, so they started seriously enforcing the law against all those but the elites, who could always get a permit a dollar a year badge.


13 posted on 03/04/2015 5:07:27 PM PST by marktwain
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To: cripplecreek
I’ve never understood the reason for needing one for concealed carry.

An "unlimited" CCW was always a mark of privilege in Michigan. Now the elites push for a "LEO-type" super-CCW that lets them carry in forbidden zones, and is supposed to awe any podunk cop that dares to stop them.

Those are still out there, as is the "private" database that the state attorney general allows cops and federal alphabet agencies to browse. It's mainly for amusement purposes, since it is a record of only valid CCW holders. The data is included with any inquiry into vehicle license number, or your name. The bored "LEOs" can watch you do the official kabuki dance required when stopped by The Law, and give you several hours of harassment if you get one word out of place.

This $50million/year system is declared by all county and state prosecutors, and "political" cops, as the one safeguard that prevents blood from running in the streets, regardless of how "shall issue" is working. It ain't going away, no matter how hard up Michigan is for $50million to spend on other things.

18 posted on 03/04/2015 6:40:39 PM PST by 300winmag (Whatever CAN go wrong has already happened. We just don't know about it yet.)
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