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Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 12/9/2014 | James Hohman

Posted on 12/11/2014 1:52:05 PM PST by MichCapCon

Most people don’t understand how government defined-benefit pension systems operate, which is one of many obstacles to reforming the deeply underfunded systems. Part of the problem is that the methods used in pension funding and accounting are very different from anything a regular person ever faces in their own personal finances.

For example, people rarely buy a product, including a financial product, without knowing its cost.

But projecting the cost of pension systems requires making various assumptions about the future to decide how much must be contributed to meet defined-benefit pension promises. Making a wrong assumption can put taxpayers on the hook for billions of dollars in unfunded liabilities. Complicating this, the incentives are strong for policymakers to make “rosy scenario” assumptions that let them get away with paying less now to prefund future benefits.

In the real world, when a family takes on a long term obligation like a mortgage they typically pay it off with fixed monthly payments. In contrast, politicians often choose methods to amortize unfunded pension liabilities in ways that require lower payments now with promises to pay more in the future.

In Michigan’s pension system for school employees for example, this is done by setting annual contributions at a fixed percentage of school payrolls, and then assuming payrolls will perpetually grow. A recent performance audit found that school payrolls increased an average of 2.2 percent annually over the past 20 years while pension managers assumed 3.5 percent.

In the real world – say in a small business – debt schedules carried on the books generally reflect how payments are actually made. With government pensions, reporting and funding can be different. In this case that’s not necessarily a bad thing, because it can make doing the right thing easier. (Make it easier to “stop digging a deeper hole” for example – see below.)

In the real world, when people take on a long term debt they aren’t allowed to set their own repayment terms and then change them when convenient. In the pension zone, the state can and has changed its terms for paying down unfunded liabilities.

In the real world, individuals who don’t make required payments on their obligations face penalties. In the pension zone, the state continues to pay less into the school employee pension system than the amount its own actuarial accountants say is needed to cover future pension benefits without extra penalty.

All these factors have contributed to unfunded pension obligations growing so large they are diverting resources from other vital needs including road repairs and public safety. Yet those who urge a common-sense reform like “stop digging a deeper hole” – close the systems to new employees and give them 401(k)s instead – are put off with false claims of excessive “transition costs.“

When legislators familiar with “real world” financial matters enter “the government pension zone,” they are vulnerable to being hoodwinked by such claims – which somehow all seem to come from individuals and groups who have a special interest in perpetuating the unsustainable status quo.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: funding; pensions; teachers

1 posted on 12/11/2014 1:52:06 PM PST by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

I read yesterday Illinois has $25,000 in state debt obligations per resident.
Unlike changing countries, changing states is pretty easy.


2 posted on 12/11/2014 1:55:28 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: MichCapCon

Bottom line is that the public employee unions used their political muscle to impose unrealistic pension costs on the taxpaying public. The taxpaying public can, therefore, morally use their political muscle to undo them in like manner.


3 posted on 12/11/2014 1:57:21 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: nascarnation
I read yesterday Illinois has $25,000 in state debt obligations per resident.

Add to that what? $130,000 in federal debt? Whatever it is now.

I would say the government owes us all, not the other way around, cuz if you think of it, what they have really done is to take out credit cards in our names without our knowledge and are spending it all leaving us to clean ip the mess.

In some quarters that is called "identity theft."

4 posted on 12/11/2014 2:13:51 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: Vigilanteman

“The taxpaying public can, therefore, morally use their political muscle to undo them in like manner.”

Not so easy in union run states like CA.


5 posted on 12/11/2014 2:19:44 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
Correct. Which is why I believe that congress should pass a bankruptcy bill for states, counties and municipalities. Much like an individual or company bankruptcy, they would be required to revert to the status of a territory and have their affairs managed as such.

They would also lose the appropriate congressional representation and be required to reapply for statehood once they showed they could manage their financial affairs.

If only a portion of that territory was able to do so, they could apply for statehood separately.

So let's say California declared bankruptcy and, following the waiting period, only portions of rural California were able to demonstrate solvency, they could be admitted as separate states.

If there is a better suggestion on solving the public employee union pension crisis without dragging the entire country down, then I have yet to hear it.

6 posted on 12/11/2014 2:38:37 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Rusty0604

Very true. California will not change its ways and eventually pensioners will be receiving IOU’s. That will be really amusing because Cali considers pensions taxable incomes and I guarantee the state will be taxing those pensioners based on the “value” of the IOU’s.


7 posted on 12/11/2014 2:39:16 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Vigilanteman

I worked with a public employee union for years. I had to attend a speech from an investment manager from CALPERS and he was bragging about how, unlike private employers, they can make any pension deals they want to because CA cannot file bankruptcy and it has the power to raise taxes as much as needed to pay pension liabilities.


8 posted on 12/11/2014 5:31:23 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

. . . And that is exactly what needs to change.


9 posted on 12/11/2014 6:57:24 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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