An Open Letter To Parents That Love Their Children

Coach is Right ^ | 12/11/14 | Ron Reale

[Oldpuppymax]

In our society there are laws we agree to live within. It is a societal compact, designed to prevent our exercise of freedom from interfering with the freedom of others. To that end, we have given over authority to enforce our laws to a specially trained, armed section of our society called “Law Enforcement.”

As all of our citizens have the same rights, when one citizen makes a complaint about the actions of another, or when reports of citizens breaking the law are brought to their attention, LEO’s are obligated by oath and honor to protect society by investigating and if warranted, securing an arrest, depending on the circumstances and immediacy required.

Unless a crime is in progress, police will generally approach an individual, request information and if necessary, inform a person of interest they are going to be arrested. At that point, ALL AMERICANS of ANY COLOR must understand one basic fact: NOTHING IS GOING TO KEEP THEM OUT OF HAND CUFFS!

The arresting officer might well be wrong! So take the ride, give no violent response, let others sort it out and maybe retire on false arrest monies later awarded in court! But if a suspect should respond with threats or aggression when an officer asks that he present his hands for cuffs, it is likely he WILL BE BEATEN, TASED or possibly SHOT and KILLED, depending on just how “bad” this fool thinks he is!

Difficult though it may be at the time, remember that your interests and those of the Officer are diametrically opposed. You might believe that you are not receiving fair treatment and perhaps you’re right. But no one will ever know it if you should get yourself killed...

[MeganC]

With all due respect, my FRiend, I will teach my children what Thomas Jefferson apparently failed to teach you:

“Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.”

[DesertRhino]

Yeah, if your kid thinks the cop is incorrect, you intend to teach them to resist arrest and fight it out to the death on the spot. I guess it really is 5 o’clock somewhere,,

[precisionshootist]

Wow, this website is usually pretty good but this article is utterly delusional.

We now live in a country where every state has thousands of felonies and other laws that make everyone a criminal whether they know it or not.

Take a bad arrest to court? Right, with who's money? Anything short of a multi million dollar super star legal team will most likely resort in railroading by lies from a blue line enforcing group of LEOs and sympathetic prosecutors and judges.

Remember Coach, you can't fight city hall. And now city hall has thousands of laws, police that are unaccountable, judges, and endless amounts of your own money in taxes to guarantee they will win in your proposed lawsuit or court case.

Bottom line, we are now living in ever escalating police state.

What we need to teach our kids and ourselves is to know your rights and to stand up for them. Make every effort to record any interaction with law enforcement.

[MeganC]

You’d have been a pile of laughs at Lexington in 1775:

“Hey, guys, they’re the authorities! You can’t really think that a bunch of farmers and carpenters can succeed against an entire army, do you? Come on, if they want our guns we should just surrender them and then work within the system to maybe get them back some day.”

Sam Adams was speaking to people like yourself when he said:

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

As for me and my house, if we have to choose between submitting to an unlawful authority or standing for our hard-fought liberties then we’ll always choose the latter. And that’s what I’m teaching my kids is to respect our laws and the people who enforce them but to be wary and on guard for those who would use their authority for unlawful purposes.

[Kackikat]

In most states ‘resisting arrest’ can be a verbal remark like ‘I am not going to jail for something I did not do” or pulling away....not necessary to hit and officer or run.

As we have seen, one can lose their life. Mainly because the arrest often has to do with them looking like a perpetrator of a crime, and if innocent, get the best defense attorney you can.....usually that’s all that is needed.... and if under 18 that arrest can be erased.

With all that said, know that in my state it is a FELONY. And if you teach your children not to comply, it can cost them plenty down the road....a job, unable to travel or move to some countries, and can make them a target from the police in some areas for all kinds of infractions caused by vehicle tickets costing time and money.

Be at peace with all men, and don’t teach ‘hate’, that will make them no different than the tyrants we oppose.

[MeganC]

If things are so bad that we can’t refuse an illegal order without threat of death then the time is well overdue to overthrow these tyrants and restore the Republic.

[MeganC]

“The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men.” ― Samuel Adams

[Kackikat]

What I gave you had nothing to do with politics, boy Gruber was right about you. I gave you the law to protect your children, since I have taught it.

Nothing about what I said had anything to do with the Republic or politics...it is the law...and the Bible says ‘render unto Caesar’s what is Caesar’s’ whether that be taxes or laws. Police have a job to do...no, not all are perfect, but we have a teen problem in this country.

Now what idiot would teach their children to attack a police officer saying he is tyranny, how can you support the policeman killing Brown or Garner as a conservative, then tell your child to disobey> unbelievable. Da*# you must off.

[Kackikat]

Make an appointment with someone who can help you with that problem.

[MeganC]

You teach the law? Then why do you advocate people submitting themselves to unlawful acts? What kind of law is that?

[Kackikat]

You need psychiatric care, because what I said is in agreement with what most freepers said, who are conservatives said....

Michael Brown should have just obeyed the officer and he would still be alive. Same with the man in NYC who died. Don’t resist....there is a right and a wrong way to act.

That was what I said you should teach your children, it isn’t on the street where you react violently and inappropriately, it’s in the courtroom.

Now I have nothing else to say to you, because you are no different than the protestors in Ferguson, with those comments.

[MeganC]

So what’s your advice to the six women in this story:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/29/oklahoma-cop-charged-sexual-assaults/14830063/

Hmm? Just go along with it and hope that maybe the courts might back you up while you spend the rest of your life in therapy?

But, yeah, he’s got a badge so that must mean he’s right even if he’s wrong and resisting him would be a bad idea.

By the way, your defense of “what I said is in agreement with what most freepers said” is a logical fallacy called an ‘appeal to authority’. It’s a tactic that’s typically used to defend arguments that can’t stand on their own merits.

[Kackikat]

I noted the other FR opinions, as you seem to have a personnel beef with police, not a normal conservative view.

Everyone knows there are a few rotten apples in any group. The police, who are part of the corrupt statistics, are harder to glean and usually behind a few years, but I will give you the link to the 2010 statistics.

http://www.policemisconduct.net/2010-npmsrp-police-misconduct-statistical-report/

Look at the red/blue chart at bottom and the percentage of police committing crimes is a small percentage of the 100,000 per population. That statistic does not show a huge crime arena of evil police officers vs other perpetrators.

The UCR (Uniform Crime Report) used by most police departments and county Sheriff offices are more up to date, but those are general categories of crimes for people arrested. You can view those statistics on the FBI website.

AS I said before, if you have a past issue that clouds your view of how to react to a police officer, I suggest counseling or it will eat you up inside. I’m not being critical, but when trust is destroyed it can corrupt our view of that group as a whole.

[MeganC]

I noted the other FR opinions, as you seem to have a personnel beef with police, not a normal conservative view.

I do. My teen years were spent in Sacramento where I learned on multiple occasions that just because they have a badge doesn't make them right. You haven't lived until you wake up at 3am in the morning with a SWAT team busting into your apartment to look for your father who YOU reported to them and who was at that very moment sitting in their jail.

And that's just one of several problems I had there.

Wyoming is a different thing altogether. The Park County Sheriff's Department, IMHO, are the friendliest and most professional members of our community and I can't say enough about them.

And my feelings about the thugs only get worse with every time I run into a PCSD deputy and they're nothing but awesome.

When we had two armed California Franchise Tax Board agents on our property demanding to see tax information for years after we left California (long story) the PCSD rolled out and told the FTB in absolutely clear words not to return. They haven't.

They say that a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged and I suppose the variant on that is that a conservative who isn't a fan of laissez faire policing is a conservative who's been mugged by a cop.

I hope it never happens to you, but if it does then you can expect me to have your back when everyone else tells you you're crazy.

[Kackikat]

I went through a situation with a family member not too long ago. However, one bad egg in a department is not usually a representative of the whole force. We are not privy to how they are treated day in and day out, so we make judgments based on how we live day by day. There is little kindness or cooperation anymore on the streets...or in the schools. Teens are not taught to respect authority anymore. So the good they do is swamped by the evil they receive from the public.

Now, that does not mean I think all police officers are okay, however that small statistic shows some areas of the country have a bigger problem than others.

In conclusion, that incident of a family member, who did nothing wrong was cleared up and nothing came of it later. However it was handled properly and within the law.

So I know what goes on, and I have had my own subjection in earlier years, but each situation that goes awry is either rebellion to authority, misunderstanding instructions, incompetence, or misinformation...rarely is it corruption on the part of the police. The pressure to solve crimes in a speedy manner comes from District Attorneys, Mayors, and other political persons in the community.

So I sympathize if you had bad experiences, but that isn’t the norm. As for the black community issues going on now, there is a constant stream of black on black crimes, and black on white crimes, yet these police risk their lives to try and police those areas so residents will be safe. It may be that black police will have to police the black communities if this keeps up.

WE have had, years ago, a man pretending to be a policeman stopping women and raping them. So even imposters can give them a bad name, if not caught and prosecuted.

My advice wasn’t to say there is no corruption, but to protect your children, if they want to stay out of the system tell them it is best to cooperate. And report any bad behavior to the police department, but do not challenge the officer directly without someone in authority present.