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Plummeting Oil Prices Could Destroy The Banks That Are Holding Trillions In Commodity Derivatives
The Economic Collapse Blog ^ | 12/08/2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 12/08/2014 10:10:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/08/2014 10:10:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh darn! I haven’t stacked enough beans and bullets yet.


2 posted on 12/08/2014 10:13:03 AM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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http://fuelfix.com/blog/2014/12/08/hedge-funds-betting-that-opec-led-oil-rout-is-near-end/

Hedge funds are betting that the oil-price crash is close to ending.

Speculators boosted their net-long position in West Texas Intermediate crude by 14 percent in the week ended Dec. 2, the most in 20 months, U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission data show. Short bets contracted by 15 percent as long wagers expanded 4 percent.

Oil’s collapse accelerated after the 12-nation Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries decided Nov. 27 to maintain output levels, underscoring the price war in crude. Oil tumbled into a bear market in October and reached a five-year low last week as the U.S. shale boom added to a global glut at a time of weakening demand growth.

“A lot of people are betting that the selloff is overdone,” John Kilduff, a partner at Again Capital LLC, a New York-based hedge fund (USO) that focuses on energy, said by phone Dec. 5. “We haven’t seen these levels in years. They represent extreme value to some folks.”

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4 posted on 12/08/2014 10:17:42 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: F15Eagle
It is going to make the financial meltdown of 2008 look like a walk in the park

Yeah, and the government's certain bailout will make Quantitative Easing look like Suzie emptying her piggy bank.

Print, print, and print some more!

5 posted on 12/08/2014 10:17:47 AM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> Could rapidly falling oil prices trigger a nightmare scenario for the commodity derivatives market? The big Wall Street banks did not expect plunging home prices to cause a mortgage-backed securities implosion back in 2008, and their models did not anticipate a decline in the price of oil by more than 40 dollars in less than six months this time either. If the price of oil stays at this level or goes down even more, someone out there is going to have to absorb some absolutely massive losses. In some cases, the losses will be absorbed by oil producers, but many of the big players in the industry have already locked in high prices for their oil next year through derivatives contracts.


6 posted on 12/08/2014 10:28:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: SeekAndFind

“It has been estimated that the six largest “too big to fail” banks control $3.9 trillion in commodity derivatives contracts.”

You have to look at what is actually meant by ‘control’. Many of these banks are prime clearing brokers, which means they hold contracts for others.

So if you open an account at Friendly Option Brokers, who clears through JP Morgan Chase, and buy 50 oil contracts, then your contracts show up as being held by JP Morgan Chase. However, if prices fall, it is you, and not JP Morgan Chase, who will be asked to put up more collateral. If you don’t do this, then your account will be sold out.

The primary broker/dealers make their money by facilitating transactions, not by taking actual risks.


7 posted on 12/08/2014 10:31:04 AM PST by proxy_user
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RE: However, if prices fall, it is you, and not JP Morgan Chase, who will be asked to put up more collateral. If you don’t do this, then your account will be sold out.

Who’s gonna buy?


8 posted on 12/08/2014 10:32:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are more and more signs the low oil price will lead to a nation in the Middle East or Russia going on a military adventure.

When your economy is tied to one commodity, and that starts to fail, desperation builds.

And we have a State department that has no idea of history or strategy


9 posted on 12/08/2014 10:34:27 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama told them not to worry , the US tax payer has tons of money


10 posted on 12/08/2014 10:36:51 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: redgolum
There are more and more signs the low oil price will lead to a nation in the Middle East or Russia going on a military adventure.

What capabilities does Venezuela have? I think they will have the worst hurt first.

11 posted on 12/08/2014 10:37:49 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all code for they’re going to probe around for another uncollaped vein in the arm of the US taxpayers to remove a few more liters of blood.


12 posted on 12/08/2014 10:38:13 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SeekAndFind
Q. How do you make a small fortune in the commodities market?
A. Start with a large fortune.
13 posted on 12/08/2014 10:40:26 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll buy.

This is just a temporary situation. Lowered oil prices give Politicians cover to tax the crap out of a gallon of gas while the price at the pump falls to supposedly pay for infrastructure needs.

The Oil suppliers will start throttling back production and capping wells to drive the prices back up.

Then when it goes back up everyone will bitch at the Oil Companies not the crooks in office and the politicians will use the newly gained “revenues” to buy more votes instead of building and repairing roads/ bridges.

Wash, rinse repeat....


14 posted on 12/08/2014 10:41:51 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: SeekAndFind
Who’s gonna buy?

There is always a buyer. At what price is the question.

15 posted on 12/08/2014 10:43:18 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: SeekAndFind

When it all goes under, standby by for some serious thievery. Then the wars will start and they’ll tell us how we needs to send our kids to fight them. No, this time, the war is HERE!


16 posted on 12/08/2014 10:43:20 AM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: thackney

Russian bases.

Bases with bombers that have nuclear cruise missiles, while we have shut down our border radars.


17 posted on 12/08/2014 10:44:20 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rubles Falls as Oil Price Slips Again
18 posted on 12/08/2014 10:46:39 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: redgolum

Columbia better get ready, if they are in a condition to be a real threat.


19 posted on 12/08/2014 10:46:52 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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