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NY: Recording Makes Crucial Difference in NY Defense Case
Gun Watch ^ | 4 December, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/04/2014 12:54:36 PM PST by marktwain




Last year, David Carlson of Sparrow Bush, New York, was a principal actor in a tragic situation involving a fugitive who was facing statutory rape charges.   Norris Acosta-Sanchez had fled the police and was living in a cabin not far from the Carlson's home.  Carlson got to know him; well enough to invite him to dinner in his house several times.   Acosta-Sanchez eventually confided in Carlson that he was a wanted man, though he did not disclose the charges against him.

Carlson tried to cooperate with police to have Acosta-Sanchez taken into custody.   In a sequence of events worthy of the Keystone Cops, Acosta-Sanchez proved to be resourceful, and escaped at least twice.  Eventually he confronted Carlson; perhaps he felt betrayed. 



Carlson, a successful family man who was well liked in the community, used a shotgun to place Acosta-Sanchez under citizen's arrest and marched him to a neighbor's to have the neighbor call police.   On the way there, Acosta-Sanchez was shot and killed.   Carlson explained to the police that Acosta-Sanchez refused commands and lunged at him, and he was forced to shoot him in self defense.

Carlson was indicted with murder.   However, the indictment of the grand jury was based, in part, on a police investigator's testimony.  The investigator claimed that Carlson had never said that Acosta-Sanchez had lunged at him. From recordonline.com:
At a pretrial hearing on statements Carlson made to police, Ostrer filed a strongly worded motion asking for the dismissal of the case. He argued that a police investigator testified to grand jurors that Carlson never claimed that Acosta-Sanchez lunged at him, when the recorded statements showed Carlson did.
Last month, Orange County Court Judge Robert Freehill dismissed the indictment. Freehill granted the prosecution the option of appealing the dismissal or presenting the case to a new grand jury. They opted for the new grand jury.
I do not know if the new grand jury will indict, or not.  But Carlson's chances of avoiding a trial are much better now that the recorded evidence will be presented.

The saturation of society with small, cheap, reliable recording devices will change us in unknown ways.   It is already changing police behavior.  It is likely that nearly all police will wear body cameras 10 years from now.  I have strong suspicions that federal agents will be among the last to be required to do so.

The point here is that David Carlson would be in significantly worse difficulties if his remarks to the police had not been recorded.   Recording tends to work for the ordinary law abiding citizen in most cases.   I have read of numerous cases where armed citizens prevailed in legal battles with police because they took the precaution of recording the interaction.  We may become a society where everyone records themselves 24/7.   Some people are doing it already.  If you are going to have an interaction with authorities, it seems that recording it is a wise precaution.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; newyork; ny; recording
The next step will be for governments to require everyone to wear a recorder 24/7.
1 posted on 12/04/2014 12:54:36 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

New York is such a stupid place. Can we please just let secede? Everyone would be better off.


2 posted on 12/04/2014 1:06:30 PM PST by txnativegop (I'm out of ideas about tag lines.)
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To: marktwain

Big Brother (i.e., the government) isn’t going to put cameras on everyone, we are doing that to ourselves, because of the actions of the GOVERNMENT!

Either way, they get their video feeds!


3 posted on 12/04/2014 1:10:46 PM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: marktwain

“He argued that a police investigator testified to grand jurors that Carlson never claimed that Acosta-Sanchez lunged at him, when the recorded statements showed Carlson did.”

Will yet another lying cop escape perjury charges? Thats what I want to know.

L


4 posted on 12/04/2014 1:13:50 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.d)
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To: Lurker
Will yet another lying cop escape perjury charges? Thats what I want to know.

That's the first question that comes to mind for me as well.

He should be up for exactly the same sentance his lying was putting the defendant in jeopardy of as well.

5 posted on 12/04/2014 1:43:21 PM PST by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: marktwain
"The saturation of society with small, cheap, reliable recording Mossberg 500 devices will change us in unknown ways"
6 posted on 12/04/2014 2:01:26 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

Russians are apparently ahead of the US in this regard.


7 posted on 12/04/2014 2:02:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain
The next step will be for governments to require everyone to wear a recorder 24/7.

I could go with that. Provided the gvt also allows me to carry my weapon 24/7.

8 posted on 12/04/2014 2:33:42 PM PST by upchuck (Ferguson: Put your hands down and go to work!)
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To: zeugma

Indeed. Tack the sentence for perjury onto the sentence the defendant would have received and make him serve them consecutively.

No mercy for cops who lie under oath. None.

L


9 posted on 12/04/2014 4:06:32 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.d)
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