Posted on 11/17/2014 11:28:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Not Extortion-Care.
Mill-Stoners.
Ripe for the millstones in the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager.
Extortion-Care Lobby and the Exempt Gang Members vs. all the rest, the Mill-Stoners .
They and their predecessors for over 6 decades have failed to realize that many of the so called degrees in college offer zero help to getting a job, keeping that job and getting raises for good work.
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13 College Majors Where The Pay Goes Nowhere
Business Insider ^ | 11/18/2014 | JACQUELYN SMITH
Posted on 11/18/2014, 7:48:55 AM by SeekAndFind
When deciding on a college major, students are encouraged to think about a few things: what they love to do; what they want to do; what jobs they imagine themselves in; and what the earning and growth potential is like for those careers.
For instance, they'd probably want to know ahead of time that Human Services majors only see their annual pay increase by about $7,500, or 22%, over the first 10 years of their careers, compared to the average American worker, whose salary grows by about $25,000, or 60%, in that time.
That's according to Pay-scale, the creator of the world's largest compensation database with more than 40 million salary profiles. It recently looked at the difference between starting (less than five years of experience) and mid-career (10 or more years of experience) pay by college major, and determined the 13 majors with the smallest salary growth.
“We're not trying to discourage students from pursuing these majors — we're simply offering information so that students can make informed choices and get the most out of their degree, whatever major they choose,” says Kayla Hill, a research analyst at Pay-scale.
Among the majors, Child Development has the lowest starting salary ($32,200) and mid-career pay ($36,400) — and shows the least amount of growth in the first 10 years ($4,200, or 13%).
“Human support service majors tend to be paid less across the board,” Hill explains. “Child Development workers in particular may see less growth over time because it is a field that tends to be undervalued by society. Additionally, childcare workers may not have the same opportunities for advancement as more technical jobs, where learning new skills can lead to a pay bump or promotion.”
Human Services majors had the second lowest salary growth between starting and mid-career,
“They are learning the hard way that socialism does not work.”
The majority of them voted for it over at least two elections and put a fascist in the White House.
It would be interesting to see how they voted in this last election. After being dumbed down in our schools, I’d be surprised if they’ve learned anything about cause and effect.
“You might think so but I paid cash for so long I had no credit score. “
Crazy isn’t it? You were being fiscally responsible and punished for it.
On the other hand, I have about 5 credit cards that I charge just about everything I buy on. Sometimes a credit card bill will be thousands of dollars. So I have near perfect credit!
(But indo pay off each bill in full -that’s part of the credit score calculation. Sadly, my credit cards are my best safe investment, paying between 1 & 3% cashback. I’ve never paid a penny in interest on any card, so I’m surprised I still qualify for these rebates)
Where is the force of the problem in this article? The liberals have dumbed down education so that these millennial cannot think and don’t understand history plus liberal teachers and administrators taught the students that they are entitled to everything, including grades, without earning them.
“. It was liberals who destroyed the education system to the point that students need to go to college just to get a high school education.”
Here, here!
We’ve been last on the international math and science tests for decades. Yet the MSM never reports it. And less and less of our students are majoring in math, the hard sciences, or engineering. Because they are not capable.
That was supposed to be ‘source’
Actually I’m less concerned about math than other subjects. Most people don’t ever need anything beyond standard arithmetic. But the inability of high school graduates to even compose proper paragraph is appalling. Ditto their utter ignorance of our history. But with people who think FDR got on TV and calmed the nation when the stock market crashed in 1929 running this country it’s no surprise.
I respectfully disagree. I’d say people need math more than they need to know proper punctuation.
Most people have no clue what tax bracket they are in. Or how much they even pay in taxes each year. They are incapable of doing this simple math and so are not incensed by our confiscatory taxation.
They have no clue when they are being ripped off either - with loans or any other products, because they cannot comparison shop. No wonder the savings rate of these young kids is negative - without basic math skills, they can’t figure out how to do a simple budget.
But it shows the total dumbing down of the population. When I went to school, every student took physics. Whether they ‘needed’ it or not. How does one know if they love the subject if they are never introduced to it?
And without scientists and engineers, the number of patents and innovations in this country has plummeted. We farm out our technical expertise to India. Manufacturing goes to China. We can’t gain from what we give away - and cannot recreate later on when all this comes crashing down.
They have no clue when they are being ripped off either - with loans or any other products, because they cannot comparison shop. No wonder the savings rate of these young kids is negative - without basic math skills, they can’t figure out how to do a simple budget.
I agree, but that's really due to a total lack of education about money. I didn't say they don't need any math skills, I said higher math, meaning algebra and beyond. You don't need algebra to draw up a budget, or trig to know what tax bracket you are in. What you need to do any of those things is a good working knowledge of arithmetic. If you want to be a scientist or engineer you need higher math, but 99% of us are not scientists or engineers. I think requiring higher math to graduate discourages many people from graduating who will never need that math.
The truth is schools don't teach about money, profits, running a business, etc. because teachers themselves are largely ignorant of such things. They look down on such things, just like Obama does. That's why they become teachers.
“The truth is schools don’t teach about money, profits, running a business, etc. because teachers themselves are largely ignorant of such things. They look down on such things, just like Obama does. That’s why they become teachers.”
True, the teachers came out of the same system they are now creating - one that has no idea how the real world works but feels superior to it. Ironic.
I’m not sure ‘higher math’ is required to graduate these days. But I don’t consider it really difficult math either, other than how badly teachers mangle it so the students don’t understand it. I taught calculus for a short time (I couldn’t stomach being surrounded by liberals all day) and the kids were amazing how easy it was, when explained in a way they understood.
Basically, students aren’t taught much of anything of value these days, whether on the science or liberals arts side. Reading what the founding fathers wrote, for example, shows their knowledge of the language and of communicating well was leaps and bounds above what is expected today.
” If you want to be a scientist or engineer you need higher math, but 99% of us are not scientists or engineers. I think requiring higher math to graduate discourages many people from graduating who will never need that math.”
Most of us aren’t authors either, so why learn how to write well?
I think a well-rounded education shows students where their abilities and strengths lie. If we assume everyone is incapable of doing something difficult, we steal the opportunity from them to excel. Or to just have the basics to use later on in their lives, if it’s not their strength.
There are lots of jobs other than being an author that require basic writing skills. If you are any kind of office or retail manager for example. I'm not saying you have to be able to write a novel, just coherent writing of the kind you see here on FR (at least most of the time). I have talked to employers who require a BA or better for positions that really don't need it, just so they will get someone who can hopefully write at what should be junior high school level.
Ever consider running for public office? IMHO you’d do an outstanding job, and are just what the Conservative Movement needs right now.
Waiters and waitresses, and even iirc busboys, make less than minimum
wage. The law permits that under the assumption that they’ll make up the difference in tips.
I was being facetious (and showing MY lack of English ability by not knowing if that word is spelled right). Same with history, biology, foreign languages, just about every subject.
Not that I think a well-rounded education is all there is - I always thought that was a buzz word for not being able to decide what to major in. But that was back in the day when schools did teach most subjects well, so kids got the options to chose their career paths. It wasn’t all liberals artsy stuff that was pushed.
I hear ya - college degrees are required for lots of jobs now, not just those requiring writing - just to find the people that had the motivation to finish the degree. Those just might show up to work on time, LOL!
I think you said it - that college is required now because it has taken the place what high school should be. Or someone else brilliant here said it! If my niece from Italy were to come here after high school, she could start college as a junior, they are that much ahead. NOT that I advocate anything that socialist country is doing for us here, but it does show how badly we are slipping.
Thank you for your kind words but there are a number of reasons why I would not run for office. I don’t want to be away from my kids while they’re growing up. I like being a stay-at-home wife & mom. And I can’t imagine putting my family under the media scrutiny that gets applied to everyone who even runs for dog catcher these days.
No doubt a lot of people have the same qualms about running for office that I do.
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