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1 posted on 11/16/2014 9:58:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Excellent - worth saving.


2 posted on 11/16/2014 10:05:06 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“In other words, an overwhelming number of the ostensibly independent statements or scores that were made or published in support of Obamacare —from Krugman, Klein, Brownstein, the DNC, Reid, Pelosi, Sebelius, and even, to a significant degree, the CBO itself — were traceable to the support of one man and his model. And that man was Jonathan Gruber, who was secretly under contract with the Obama administration.”

This is a massive, criminal conspiracy to defraud and many, many people need to go to jail.


3 posted on 11/16/2014 10:05:24 AM PST by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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In other words, corrupt from start to finish. It's another lie from start to finish. It was never about health care, it was about ontrol. "Someone–Gruber for sure, maybe others in the Obama administration–deserves to go to jail for this. The Obama administration is corrupt to the core. It can’t come to an end too soon." John Hinderacker, Powerline.
4 posted on 11/16/2014 10:05:54 AM PST by Fungi
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The thlot pickens.


5 posted on 11/16/2014 10:06:18 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
For the record, before Obamacare passed, the CBO predicted that the president’s signature legislation would have led to 19 million more people having health insurance by 2014 (see Table 4). In reality, Obamacare has maybe hit half that number — and many if not most of Obamacare’s newly insured have simply been dumped into Medicaid.

"For the record" doesn't include, those who had insurance before Obamacare, lost it because of Obamacare and got it back through Obamacare.

that should be a wash, but I'm guessing those numbers are included in the Feds enrollment figure. (numbers are all over they place everywhere) So enrollment figures are overstated by approx. 2.6 million...a figure factcheck even accepts as gospel.
6 posted on 11/16/2014 10:14:59 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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This has been an interesting exercise in state propaganda. I remember the discussions, debates, and arguments with the lefties over what we instinctively saw as the profound financial implications of Øbongocare. The math simply didn’t work. And one couldn’t torture it sufficiently to make it work. The only thing that was left were blatant lies, all neatly wrapped into these ‘insightful articles on health care costs’ that they repeatedly pointed us to.

The takeaway from all of this that needs to be preached everywhere is that dhimmicarts are deceitful liars.


8 posted on 11/16/2014 10:18:08 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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It’s gotten to the point where we need to call the travesty Grubamacare. The scam artist was everywhere and his fingerprints are all over the bill.

Rats, eager to grasp any life line to convince the last few of their holdouts (Nelson, Landrieu, Stupak, e.g.) carried out the scam. They are complicit and need to be fully held to account and fully ousted.


9 posted on 11/16/2014 10:19:59 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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The whole thing was a scam. Everybody knew it was a scam. The Democrats just winked and nodded and pretended everything was on the up and up. The MSM knew it too, and ran cover for the Democrats.


16 posted on 11/16/2014 10:36:18 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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Garbage in garbage out.


17 posted on 11/16/2014 10:36:48 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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circle jerk...
18 posted on 11/16/2014 10:43:46 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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Wait: Are you all stupid? CNN has finally reported on the matter and effectively explains Gruber's actions in this condescending piece titled Obamacare: Voters, are you Stupid?

Gruber, Puppet and RATs are 'clever'; we're all stupid. Get it?

As well, CNN makes patently clear that we are not 'impartial' in regards to the 'jury' on O'care.

</sarc> (top to bottom)

On the latter, talk about the pot calling the kettle black...hmmmmm???

I've not heard of the '2017 Project'; I'll have to find time to research...

20 posted on 11/16/2014 10:59:00 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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2009 Flashback - Pelosi 'knows' the CBO results before they are announced...rigged

Transcript of Pelosi, House Democratic Leaders, and Economists’ Press Conference Following Economic Forum

Q: Can you give us an update on the health care … [inaudible] … how close were …

Speaker Pelosi. Here’s where we are. I have been in a meeting for four hours, but when I talk to the Members again today I will be talking to them about that issue of fiscal soundness, which is what we heard over and over again from our experts. They talked about how we needed to be fiscally sound, but we needed to invest in jobs. But they said in the health care bill we really have to do the job of taking down cost. We said that that was a universal message.

And that is what our purpose is, is to improve quality, lower cost, expand coverage, and retain choice for those who like what they have. And in doing so, as the President has said: “Health care reform is entitlement reform and entitlement reform is essential to lowering the deficit.”

And what I will show Members today is how what we are about to receive from the CBO shows how we are fiscally sound as we accomplish the purposes that I just mentioned and we will continue to work for the rest of the day on that. We are moving forward in a very positive way.

23 posted on 11/16/2014 11:02:59 AM PST by Son House (Who's going to clean up Bush's mess now? </sarc>)
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Bookmark


32 posted on 11/17/2014 2:27:26 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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