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The Hummer is back. Thank falling oil prices.
The Washington Post ^ | November 10, 2014 | Chico Harlan

Posted on 11/11/2014 1:11:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I always thought all of the commercial Hummers (excluding the military surplus HMMWV) were ostentatious and looked like a vehicle for attention-seeking poseurs.

However, they DO p*ss off liberals and tree-huggers, so that's a good thing.

As for me, I have been on the lookout for a Grand Wagoneer in good condition at a reasonable price. I had two of them and would love another "Spinnaker Blue" model like the one I had 20 years ago.


21 posted on 11/11/2014 6:44:22 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day

http://www.2040cars.com/Jeep/Wagoneer/1988-jeep-grand-wagoneer-mint-643928/


22 posted on 11/11/2014 6:57:26 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

2.99 in Eastern Ohio, 3.09 in SW Pa


23 posted on 11/11/2014 7:09:53 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: thackney
Thank you. That is a beautiful one indeed, but $34K is pretty close to "all the money" for one of those. I am not surprised at the ask for that one...it looks pristine.

I'm looking for one that's more of a "survivor" truck that I can work on resto-modding.

I well remember stopping at the gas pump all the time, so I would love to do an engine swap with a more modern truck engine that is just a BIT more fuel efficient with more HP.

I wish I had the budget to buy one already done by Norbert at GrandWagoneer.com. He does impressive work, to say the least.

24 posted on 11/11/2014 7:11:57 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hummer shmummer. Lambo did it first.


25 posted on 11/11/2014 7:18:35 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Netz
"Great. Short term thinking comes into play once again..."

Exactly. Because producers would never reduce production to limit supply. /s

26 posted on 11/11/2014 7:22:36 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Constitution Day
I wish I had the budget to buy one already done by Norbert at GrandWagoneer.com. He does impressive work, to say the least.

Those look great! Thanks for the link.

27 posted on 11/11/2014 8:02:09 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

Anytime! Should I ever inherit a large fortune, one of those is on my bucket list.


28 posted on 11/11/2014 8:44:21 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: SkyPilot

The math is simple Hummer goes into compact with Hummer left over.
safety comes at a cost.


29 posted on 11/11/2014 9:18:20 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: TexasFreeper2009

**** “you know... I don’t care if gas is free... I just dont like hummers !” *****

I drive a Jeep CJ5 I need a bumper sticker “ If I wanted a Hummer, I’d call your sister”

TT ;^)


30 posted on 11/11/2014 10:29:31 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Gaffer

Yes, the vehicles had to between 6000 lbs and x00000 lbs. It was to get businesses to replace their commercial vehicles. It was part of one of the GW Bush stimulus plans.
They figured it would stimulate the economy with the replacement of trucks. It just so happened that those four SUVs also weigh over 6000lbs. It is what we call a LOOP HOLE(unintentional consequence).

Some of these stimulus incentives actually worked. I remember one that gave you a tax credit for buying Energy Star appliances. We bought a new French door fridge because of it. I immediately saw a drop on my electric bill of about $20/month. With the tax incentive and saving in electricity, it paid itself off in less than 3 years.

Another stimulus item I agreed with was the tax credit on wood and pellet stoves of 1/3 of their price up to $1500.
This got people to buy new higher efficient heating equipment that based on their savings typically paid off within 2-3 years.

A third, which I think is still on going, is the tax credit on adding insulation to your residence. Most houses built prior to 1995 do not have enough insulation. Some are horribly inefficient. Insulating your house is the best thing you can do to save yourself money. Insulation also loses R value over time as it compresses. It is typically about a 2-3 year payback in energy savings. It is 5x better than replacing windows. It is 3x better than replacing doors. Heat rises, most houses need a foot of insulation in the attic. Very few do.

Not all stimulus proposals were as bad as cash for clunkers.


31 posted on 11/11/2014 10:42:30 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: thackney

Hey they got a propane chart like that?


32 posted on 11/11/2014 10:45:31 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Lots of info at:

http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/weekly/propane.cfm#tabs-res-propane-prices-avg


33 posted on 11/11/2014 10:47:13 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Netz

There is some short term thinking, perhaps, but from the largest fleets to the myriad small businesses, the flip-flop may just be replacing fleet vehicles bought six years ago while lower projected fuel costs will permit/facilitate the expenditure.


34 posted on 11/11/2014 2:01:55 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
The benefits compound as prices fall.

Unless you (used to) work in the oil industry. There are balance points on every curve, but the boom/bust cycle of the oil industry is a notorious one for evading that balance.

For those of us on the drilling end of things, when fuel is expensive, we can afford it. When it is cheap, not so much.

35 posted on 11/11/2014 2:05:15 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SkyPilot
I myself never liked the Hummer as a SUV. It screams "Give me Attenion! Mine's Bigger!"

It isn't the real thing as HMMVs go, it's built on a Silverado pickup chassis.

Bigger, taller, more ground clearance, more durable is attractive to me because of where I work.

The H2 isn't.

36 posted on 11/11/2014 2:12:15 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SkyPilot

I always thought of it as Chevy Tahoe for losers who wants to look mean.


37 posted on 11/13/2014 12:04:06 AM PST by wetphoenix
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