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Spend lots of money on a slick ad campaign, and you can fool a lot of voters, especially if the old media is on your side. Consider how Obama got elected in 2008.
1 posted on 11/09/2014 2:26:34 PM PST by marktwain
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The crazy liberals shooting up schools wanted to blame guns instead of themselves, just like tobacco smokers persuaded it was Big Tobacco’s fault.

Now when Adam Lanza steals a gun to shoot, he will get mental health and the gun owner jail for weapon transfer or recklessness.


2 posted on 11/09/2014 2:38:34 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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The crazy liberals shooting up schools wanted to blame guns instead of themselves, just like tobacco smokers persuaded it was Big Tobacco’s fault.

Now when Adam Lanza steals a gun to shoot, he will get mental health and the gun owner jail for weapon transfer or recklessness.

I.e we are looking at genocide.


3 posted on 11/09/2014 2:38:56 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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If SCOTUS has any integrity whatsoever, it will strike down this law and all other gun control laws as unconstitutional. Sooner or later, We The People will need to teach gun-grabbers a lesson they won’t be able to forget; waiting for them to burn in hellfire is not enough.

Also, note the Microsoft money poured into this campaign. Coupled with MS support for Communist Core, I think it’s safe to say that we should all avoid giving money to MS and any other criminal enterprises which support pro-criminal legislation.


4 posted on 11/09/2014 2:40:40 PM PST by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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I, only a week ago moved to Washington state.

My BIL, who lives here says that I-594 is a slippery slope, as are all "common sense" gun laws.

I understand the I-594 law requires back ground checks on private sales, ie. selling to a relative, a friend.

This doesn't seem to be very enforceable. How they going to know?

5 posted on 11/09/2014 2:41:23 PM PST by PROCON (OK 'pubs, let's get 'er done in 2015 or 2016 won't bode well for you.)
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I hope the NRA and other gun rights organizations fight this—and fight it hard.

Otherwise, this will set a pattern for the fascists to continue their march toward forcing Americans into serfdom.


6 posted on 11/09/2014 2:41:29 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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I spoke with a guy yesterday who was heartsick - he had mistakenly voted FOR I-594 and AGAINST I-591. He got them mixed up. I recognized this as a possible outcome from the outset and wonder how many others were similarly confused.


7 posted on 11/09/2014 2:45:16 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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I think they had an nra member on one of the commercials...they had pretty mothers....and some cops...

this is our democracy....the golden rule...them that gots the gold, rule....anything they want....

no doubt they'll turn to something else in this state now...we got the pot,we got the gun control, next we'll be voting on assisted suicide....then probably infanticide...

people are stupid...and you can't cure that....

I hope it gets trashed in the courts like it should be....

how can the selling or giving or donating a firearm be any business of the govt...it can't...

8 posted on 11/09/2014 2:54:47 PM PST by cherry
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Maine is a strong 2nd Amendment state....these gun grabbers will get a fight if they to pull this crap here.

Also, the crime rate here is very low.

Thirdly, we just re-elected our pro-second amendment governor, Paul LePage, to a second term. He is very outspoken and doesn’t take crap from anyone.


10 posted on 11/09/2014 3:12:34 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Enjoy Barack Obama's Legacy America (EBOLA))
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Here in Washington state they ran constant TV ads talking about women being killed by husbands and boyfriends.

In reality, only 18 percent of women killed by domestic violence are killed by guns. The majority are strangled or beaten to death.

Women would be better off to own a gun to defend themselves. And what about if somebody is being beaten to death, a friend/neighbor who does not own a gun rushes over, knows where their friend hides a gun and dispatches the would-be murderer?

So here the survivor of the attack would have created a felony by transferring the gun to his/her saviour neighbor.

Replace the neighbor with a child or grandchild attacking the would-be murderer. Another felony.

Victim’s choice: either go ahead and get killed or go to prison.


11 posted on 11/09/2014 3:12:55 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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This is an important topic — thanks for posting this.

Like many here, I’m concerned about the way this law will make felons out of good people (while not bothering the bad guys).

Luckily, I believe this kind of ballot initiative can’t happen in a majority of states. That leaves a minority to worry about.


12 posted on 11/09/2014 3:20:05 PM PST by 68skylark
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There was only one single reason that I-594 passed. That was the absurd scheme of fighting an unconstitutional proposal with an equally unconstitutional proposal.

Those attempting to fight fire with fire got us burned very badly.

I-594 should have been opposed simply because it violated "....shall not be infringed". Period.

33 posted on 11/09/2014 6:49:23 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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