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Obama vs CIA, Who Is Telling The Truth?
http://leomcneil.net/2014/10/01/obama-vs-cia-who-is-telling-the-truth/ ^ | October 1, 2014 | Leo McNeil

Posted on 10/01/2014 4:43:38 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil

President Obama blamed America’s intelligence agencies for failing to properly access the dangers of a rising ISIS. In leaked reports, the CIA has released information suggesting that Obama was warned about ISIS increasing in strength as early as before the 2012 election. Other information leaked in the past few days suggest the President doesn’t bother attending more than half of his intelligence briefings. The public is stuck deciding who is telling the truth here because someone must be lying. Either the President was warned and made the decision not to confront ISIS while they were still weak or our intelligence services have failed to obtain the sort of intelligence necessary for the President to make a decision.

If the CIA is wrong, if they failed to properly assess the growing strength of ISIS this is a major problem. The CIA was already wrong on Iraq’s WMD’s a decade ago. It was their warnings, as well as warnings from Britain’s MI6, that led to the Iraq War. Iraq didn’t have WMD’s in mass quantities and if the CIA is wrong here they once again failed to figure out what is actually happening on the ground. It begs the question what the point of having an intelligence service is when they’re either outright wrong or fail to figure out what’s actually going on. If the CIA didn’t figure out what was going on with ISIS, it begs the question why Obama is listening to them now. After all, he’s relying on CIA reports about ISIS positions in Syria in order to bomb them. Why are we dropping bombs if the CIA can’t be trusted to figure anything out?

On the other hand it’s entirely possible that Obama is lying about the CIA not figuring things out about ISIS. In this case, it’s likely he ignored the problem in favor of focusing on more domestic matters. If the CIA warned him before the 2012 election about ISIS, it makes one wonder why in 2013 the President was willing to support ISIS interests by attacking Assad in Syria. After all, ISIS wants to get rid of Assad. Does the President not trust reports he receives from the CIA? If so, why not? If he has a history of not trusting the CIA’s reports, why is he relying on them now to bomb ISIS targets in Syria? Why has he trusted CIA reports to bomb al Qaeda targets via drone for the last six years? If the President didn’t believe the CIA reports, he’s covering his tracks now. On the other hand, if the CIA wasn’t on top of ISIS they’re completely incompetent. Even the media had reports about ISIS long before the beheadings made it popular to support action against them.

Obama throwing the CIA under the bus has left us with a lot of questions and not many answers. If Obama truly wasn’t informed about ISIS, if the CIA really had no idea this group was becoming a threat then we’ve got a big problem on our hands. Why are we sending bombs into Syria based in CIA intelligence that shouldn’t be trusted? How can we trust the CIA to know what’s going on in the world’s danger zones when they can’t get this one right? On the other hand, if the CIA did warn Obama then we’re looking at another two years with a President who doesn’t pay attention to his daily intelligence briefings. It makes you wonder how much thought he’s put in to our nation’s attacks on ISIS. Is he bombing ISIS because it’s politically expedient to do so or is he doing it because he really believes in the cause? If it’s the former, the bombings will cease after the election.

At this point it isn’t clear which side is telling the truth. Obama clearly threw his intelligence services under the bus when he accused them of dropping the ball on ISIS. The intelligence community responded as one would expect them to do, they leaked negative stories about Obama concerning intelligence briefings. It isn’t clear who is telling the truth, perhaps neither deserve the benefit of the doubt. What we can do is note that Obama’s position concerning Syria has been inconsistent over the last two years. He drew a red line against Assad and in August and September of 2013 he threatened to bomb Syria, thus helping the ISIS rebels cause. Did the President not consider the danger of ISIS in 2013 because he wasn’t paying attention or because he wasn’t warned? Did the CIA warn him about ISIS at the time. Why the sudden shift against ISIS and thus in favor of Assad in September 2014? We seem to be switching sides on a moments notice. Is this all Obama or is it the result of poor intelligence? It just isn’t clear right now.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: cia; isis; obama; syria
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1 posted on 10/01/2014 4:43:38 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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To: LeoMcNeil
Obama vs CIA, Who Is Telling The Truth?

Do not need to know any details. A good leader doesn't blame subordinates for failure. He takes personal responsibility and corrects the problem.

And anything involving Obama is an automatic. Obama is an habitual liar. He is also possesses the maturity of a child constantly throwing a temper tantrum.

2 posted on 10/01/2014 4:48:38 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: LeoMcNeil

Is there any question as to who is telling the truth?


3 posted on 10/01/2014 4:49:19 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: LeoMcNeil

The only Truth about the undocumented
impostor Tyrant-from-Indonesia, is that
he is UNDOCUMENTED and made a candidate
by Pelosi’s fraud with the blessing
of the treasonous EXEMPT who made him KING.


4 posted on 10/01/2014 4:51:02 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: LeoMcNeil
The public is stuck deciding who is telling the truth here because someone must be lying.

I'm not stuck at all.....

Best Regards,

John Q Public

5 posted on 10/01/2014 4:53:38 AM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: LeoMcNeil

Access?

Assess!


6 posted on 10/01/2014 4:54:48 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: LeoMcNeil

if my 70 yr old mother living in FL sticks knew about the pro Islam build up and the push for caliphate in the middle east (ie: ottoman empire 2) by watching tv and reading the Internet...

then sure as hell, the president of the US should know about it.

it’s not the CIA’s fault 0bama was too drugged up all the time or too busy playing golf to bother to find out.

of course, my 70 yr old mom also realizes 0bama is trying to destroy the country as best he can (economy, weakened military, police state, illegals, pestilence, etc) while placing pro-muslim/pro-progressive/anti-American types in various high ranking positions

I wonder what it’ll take for the patriots at the CIA, NSA and the pentagon to wake up and figure it out


7 posted on 10/01/2014 4:56:46 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: LeoMcNeil

I trust this President as far as I can throw the bus under which one finds most of his advisers. Think of all the promises he made during his campaigns (e.g., cut the deficit in half, an open administration, cut unemployment to less than 5%, boost economic growth above 4%, etc.) and he’s kept none of them. He is simply incompetent and blames everyone around him for his lack of leadership. He is the worst President this Republic has ever seen.


8 posted on 10/01/2014 4:58:41 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: caver

Obama vs CIA, Who Is Telling The Truth?

Well, we know it’s not Obama, so it must be the CIA.


9 posted on 10/01/2014 5:00:27 AM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: duckworth

Haha


10 posted on 10/01/2014 5:05:00 AM PDT by bayouranger (Those who are anti-islam are a National Security Threat.- J.Brennan CIA Dir. Feb10)
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To: LeoMcNeil

This is not the first time Obama has blamed the intelligence community for his own lack of leadership.

When will the spooks get tired of it?


11 posted on 10/01/2014 5:11:29 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

I fixed the error in the original blog post.


12 posted on 10/01/2014 5:13:38 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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To: LeoMcNeil

Well, Obama has never told the truth, so I’m going with the CIA. Obama better not make them real mad. He doesn’t want to see them real mad. (Just like The Incredible Hulk)


13 posted on 10/01/2014 5:22:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: DakotaGator

I agree Obama shouldn’t throw the CIA under the bus. However there’s nothing about traditional leadership that Obama has followed so it’s hardly surprising that he did what he did.

Obama may be a habitual liar but there are plenty of reasons not to trust the CIA.


14 posted on 10/01/2014 5:24:58 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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To: LeoMcNeil

If the CIA lies it’s their job..
When Obama lies, it’s from force of habit.


15 posted on 10/01/2014 5:28:38 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: LeoMcNeil

As for Me I’m with the C.I.A. based on Obama’s History.
He only lies when he opens his mouth.


16 posted on 10/01/2014 5:33:15 AM PDT by chatham
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To: caver

None at all. Didn’t that bat-crazy witch Pelosi also accuse the CIA of lying when she got caught in one of her many screw-ups? bammy, acting like the scared little b.... he is.


17 posted on 10/01/2014 5:34:57 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: LeoMcNeil

No one in Washington.


18 posted on 10/01/2014 5:35:19 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: LeoMcNeil
The number one priority of the President is National Security and the safety of the American people.

As such, the National Security brief is the number one priority of the President

Under Obama it's obvious that National Security is a total blow off issue and the lowest priority with Obama. He has only shown up to 40% of the National Security briefs and the rest of the ones he did “attend” are simply the times he promised to read the brief “in private” on his iPAd.

Under George Bush, the DAILY National Security brief was his first priority and the first thing he did in the morning at 7:00 to 7:30 am.

Obama does not even wake up until 10:00 am.

The serious negative consequences of Obama’s feckless abdication of his National Security obligations have been rolling in for the last 3 years but the have been covered up by his sycophants in the media who are a de facto propaganda arm that Pravda in the 1970s would have been proud and envious of.

Things have gotten so out of hand under Obama that we are seeing an explosion of disasters that are so bad and high profile that it is getting hard for the media to do their customary cover up for Obama

19 posted on 10/01/2014 5:41:33 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
Access?

Assess!


And he used "begs the question" the illiterate way. Twice!


20 posted on 10/01/2014 6:19:53 AM PDT by 867V309 (Crusade: the only solution.)
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