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Alan is convinced that the term "background check" is our Achilles heel.
1 posted on 09/30/2014 6:19:11 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Background check” means ‘Does the government approve of what you are about to do?’


2 posted on 09/30/2014 6:30:12 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: marktwain

the decision whether or not to sell an item is strictly on me.

once the sale has been completed, the relationship ends there (exceptions for warrantys that help entice the buyer)

to say the seller is responsible for the use of items sold after the fact is absurd. the property is not in his possession and not under his control. he would have to be a mind reader and a fortune teller to foresee criminal intent months in advance.

how about this... in such a world... if these criminals were released from prison, wouldn’t the state be at fault for any crimes they committed in the future, as they gave them their freedom knowing criminal activity was possible?


3 posted on 09/30/2014 6:32:50 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: marktwain

An issue I have is “we” seem to support background checks when buying a gun from a dealer/FFL. I personally am not in favor of any background check, but the NRA and most 2A organizations seem to (enforce existing laws, blah, blah).

So this begs the question that if a background check at the dealer is a good idea and supposedly “keeps guns out of the wrong hands”, then why aren’t all sales checked? What good is it if a “bad guy” can bypass the dealer background check by purchasing from a private party?

These are the types of questions I get from antis and fence sitters and I don’t have a very good answer.

Personally, I’d like to see GCA’68 and NFA ‘34 repealed so I can ring up Colt and have an M4 delivered to my front door. But nowadays most people freak out at the thought of that much freedom.


5 posted on 09/30/2014 6:34:20 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: marktwain

It’s the other way ‘round.

One of the greatest bits of wisdom my dad ever imparted to me was “Don’t ever sell your used car to a friend if you value the friendship.”


6 posted on 09/30/2014 6:38:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: marktwain

Seems like the entire West Coast is lost to “loonies” that want the government to control and give them everything. No more personal responsibility (i.e., if you sell the gun, you, not the buyer, are responsible for the subsequent actions) equals total government dominance. Is this not the end goal of our current administration?


11 posted on 09/30/2014 7:05:52 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: marktwain

I sold a hammer to a complete stranger.......


13 posted on 09/30/2014 7:07:42 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: marktwain

Once the transaction is complete and I have a sellers copy bill of sale (I’ve gotten one for every car I’ve sold, I don’t sell guns) what happens after that is none of my business nor should I be responsible in any way.


16 posted on 09/30/2014 7:13:35 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: marktwain
1. Selling to someone you do not know is irresponsible.

How about doing some background checks on the people living in the white hut? The American people were sold a bucket of crap - twice.

18 posted on 09/30/2014 7:19:33 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns are like parachutes. If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.)
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To: marktwain

I sold a nice O/U shotgun to someone I didn’t know one time. Not the kind of weapon a criminal would typically use to commit a crime though. Of course, the person I sold it to might use it to hunt dove out of season or without a license. Should I then be an accessory to the crime?


19 posted on 09/30/2014 7:34:15 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marktwain

I know a bit about buying guns. Selling one is an entirely foreign concept.


20 posted on 09/30/2014 7:54:18 AM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: marktwain

I have sold all my cars to people I did not know........


21 posted on 09/30/2014 7:54:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: marktwain; et al

Cash talks -— this bull sh!t walks. If guns, why not hammers ? And of course nails.


22 posted on 09/30/2014 8:11:22 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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