To: 2ndDivisionVet
No place for Constitutional Libertarians, I guess. We’re too small to matter - the groups listed are Big Government clients all the way across the spectrum.
3 posted on
06/30/2014 5:19:03 PM PDT by
Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"On the right, the Steadfast Conservatives are described as your typical Tea Party adherent, socially conservative, wary of big government and isolationist, pretty much your Ted Cruzs of the world."Did you miss the above?
7 posted on
06/30/2014 5:21:23 PM PDT by
2ndDivisionVet
(The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
To: Mr. Jeeves
No place for Constitutional Libertarians, I guess. Were too small to matter - the groups listed are Big Government clients all the way across the spectrum.
As one of the other responders pointed out, there is at least one of their labels that 'distrusts' government - hence not in favor of Big Government - but that's a minor issue. The spectrum is flawed because there is an embedded - and false - assumption that there is some sort of smooth transition from one position to another where whatever they are 'measuring' is always getting closer to one end and further from the other. The whole discussion of 'social' versus 'economic' dimensions to the measurement show that cannot be done with one scale, as does having 'Big Government' as part of all but one of the positions.
The only political dimension where there is a smooth and continuous transition measures whether rights and responsibilities are collective or individual. The US Constitution describes a carefully-worked-out compromise between those extremes - far superior to the system we live under.
There is a social metric as well on whether moral 'goodness' results in the best achievable environment for children or results in the gratification of adults.
So, I am a 'Constitutional Libertarian' as well. I would like collective authority to be sharply limited - as defined in the Constitution, supplemented by local laws for things (like murder) that are not within the federal government's authority but still need to be addressed collectively. In so-called 'social' matters, while I hope and pray for people to choose the time-proven social customs that are best for children as a way to keep society viable, I would not want to use government (collective authority) to force people to behave that way.
Which is the same as saying that I hope and pray that everyone will accept Jesus as Lord and Christ, but I don't want government to force that view on everyone.
39 posted on
06/30/2014 6:26:19 PM PDT by
Phlyer
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