WI:Open Carry Has Become Acceptable in Milwaukee

Gun Watch ^ | 4 June,2014 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

William Polster on a Open Carry Walk

On 17 May, I attended a gun turn in event in urban Milwaukee.  The neighborhood is known for its high crime rate.   One of the first things that I noticed was a person openly carrying a holstered handgun, who marched with those calling for an end to unjustified shootings.

That was a special occasion, and one focused on guns.  A few days later, on Memorial day, I took a picture of a young man openly carrying at a busy McDonald's in Hayward, Wisconsin.   A commenter, "Secret Agent Man" on freerepublic.org, one of the sites it was published on, mentioned that:

...a solo open carry guy in downtown milwaukee wold not get the same treatment. he’d be taken down and cuffed. and flynn’s said so.

Secret Agent Man is referring to the infamous statement of Milwaukee  Police Chief Ed Flynn, in 2009.  It shows how far reaching a police chief's statements can be in chilling the exercise of Constitutional rights.  In 2009, before the passage of the shall issue law in Wisconsin, Chief Flynn said, as recorded on washingtoncountysheriffwi.org: 

"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it."

I do not know of any incidents where Chief Flynn's "troops" carried out his threat; even a Milwaukee Police Chief seems to know when to back down.   The legislature changed the law in 2011, and it appears that police are mostly abiding by it.  Some monetary settlements to open carriers may have helped.

William Polster openly followed the law this last weekend in Milwaukee, in a neighborhood that was the scene of tragedy only a week before, when a gunfight between suspected gang members resulted in a stray bullet hitting a 10-year-old in the head.

He walked for two hours within two blocks of the shooting, openly carrying his Glock 21 and handing out pocket constitutions.   Most people were willing to take a constitution from a stranger with a gun.  He handed out about 30 constitutions and talked with about as many.

Milwaukee resident extends hand to welcome open carrier to neighborhood

Only one person suggested that there was a potential problem with the constitutional right to bear arms:  they were concerned with the possibility of mentally unstable people having access to firearms.   No one asked Mr. Polster to leave, no one was hostile.   While police drove by in squad cars three times, no one stopped or questioned his right to openly carry in Milwaukee.  Mr. Polster has posted his two hours of open carry to YouTube, if you wish to watch for yourself.

The unjustified homicide problem in the United States has been greatly reduced in the last 20 years.   As most of the country has embraced the "Shall issue" model of concealed carry, the unjustified homicide rate has dropped in half.  Many other factors may be involved, but the rise of carry permits, with the drop in unjustified homicide, is a startling fact for most people to find out.

The vast majority of unjustified homicides are concentrated in tiny urban areas, in a tiny subset of the population.    From the research of David Kennedy, a renowned criminal justice professor and former Harvard researcher:

 “We now know that homicide and gun violence are overwhelmingly concentrated among serious offenders operating in groups: gangs, drug crews, and the like representing under half of one percent of a city's population who commit half to three-quarters of all murders.”

The problem with inner city urban areas is that the people there have become acculturated to not trusting the justice system.   If you look all over the globe, you see that lack of trust as the common factor in high homicide rates:  If people do not trust the system to be effective and dispense fairly reliable justice, the homicide rate soars.   Europeans in the middle ages had homicide rates in the range of those of inner city urban crime centers and  failed nations-states today.

How do you restore trust in the justice system?  Perhaps one way to do it is to hand out copies of the Constitution while graphically demonstrating that the police have to respect the limitations that it places on the government.


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[jsanders2001]

> Think of the reprehensible Dirty Dozen, a lot of them were ugly and probably scared the cattle.

Unfortunately many of the LIV cattle have voting rights and the president’s ear because they’re gay or donate their leftist liberal $$$ to him (and earn as much as the 1%’ers but aren’t called on itor audited for some strange reason). I would rather pull back and take the issue off the radar by not inflaming especially when we have a dictator who makes “laws” based on knee-jerk reactions personal agendas over the will of the people with his magic pen. If you’re not LEOs, solders, PPO’s, or on the firing range I just think its not a good idea to carry what looks like an “assault weapon” by the MSM and the lefties right now to preserve those rights. The only guys I’ve seen carrying AR-15’s over their shoulders are young guys so far. It gives the appearance of being about ego, bravado, and lack of wisdom. I’m not against owning them or carrying them at all. I’m just asking for them to use a little common sense in the matter. BTW - I am former LEO and PPO and have been trained to use them and enjoy firing them on the range...: )

[bravo whiskey]

The Fuzz can’t arrest you for FLASHING it if they can detect your legally-carried concealed weapon.

i agree with that statement too.

[itssme]

What you said is so true,and it’s something We the People must remember: “All wars are won as a result of hundreds of different strategies and tactics.”

We must never give up, we must use our God given intellect and ingenuity to do anything and everything we can to refuse, delay, deny, obstruct, destroy the enemy in OUR White House. We are the freedom fighters for our time...so let’s operate like freedom fighters and stay focused on our goals.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Nah. Just RE-packing shotgun shells these days! :)

[fella]

We don't hear about mass shootings at Israeli schools.

I wonder why?