Posted on 04/02/2014 9:13:47 AM PDT by Shery
The Rapture of the Church is not the Resurrection! It is the “alive in Christ” joining the “already dead in Christ” in the air. Since the timing of the Last Days is pretty well set after the breaking of the First Seal, i.e. the revelation of the Anti-Christ, the only way that the day and the hour can be unknown to all but the Father is for it to happen before the First Seal is broken.
However, as I said before, believe what you want to believe. I take comfort in these words.
Matthew 24 (New King James Version)
No One Knows the Day or Hour
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,[e] but My Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,
39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour[f] your Lord is coming.
43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.
44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
1 Thessalonians 4 (New King James Version)
The Comfort of Christ’s Coming
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.[b]
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
Understanding God's Word does not require an understanding of the Hebrew Language. But it does require the work of His Spirit within us, who IS our teacher....
God is certainly more than able to give us understanding in any language one is familiar with....He is 'not limited' by translations of men...rather 'HE is the Author' of His own Word and for that perfectly able and willing to reveal Himself and His Word to us as HE sees fit....and we can trust Him for that.
Thank you. I have made those same points as well to some who were convinced they could figure this out.
I don’t know why you don’t understand this simple fact, but yes the Resurrection and the rapture are one and the same.
Paul told us that the resurrection of those that sleep will come first, but it is still the same event, at the last trump. The scriptures that you post disprove your position completely.
Are you inviting strong delusion? - I’m not joking; if we wish to believe the lie, we will be allowed to believe it.
There is absolutely not one word in scripture to support what you profess to believe. You say that you “take comfort” in the very scriptures that demolish your belief.
1Thessalonians 4 plainly says that the resurrection of those that sleep is first, then those that are alive and remain, so how can it be backwards of that?
And in 1corinthians 15 Paul clearly says that it is at the last trump. How can you draw another conclusion from that? Do you hear world wide blasts of the angels shofar every day? Have you even heard one?
He told the Thessalonians that the “man of sin” MUST first be revealed; has he been revealed standing on the holy place? Until that happens, the resurrection can’t.
There are only two resurrections: One at the end of the trib, for his elect, and the one at the end of the millennial reign for those that are lost.
Can you find a scripture that calls for any other?
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She made no points, so what points did you make?
Wishing for something that is contrary to scripture is not making any point.
He commands us to “Watch.” - He provided his feasts to teach us how and when to watch. He said that if we do not watch his coming will be “as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.”
Get it? Only those that will not watch will not know what hour. (Rev 3:3)
Yom Teruah is all about how and when to watch. If you practice it every year, you can’t help but be ready when its for real. Purim happens every year too, and if you observe it every year, you can’t help but recognize the “man of sin” reveal himself on that day.
Yeshua’s trying to make it easy, but you are doing your best to fail.
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Could you, would you, editor-surveyor, put those words into terms that a simple man like myself can understand? If not, that's ok. If so, it will be greatly appreciated!
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I am not going to argue with you on this. We will see how it really is soon enough! Maranatha!
Magog refers to Turkey, not Russia. And Gog (also known as the Antichrist) comes from Magog.
Simplest terms, The first resurrection will be on the first day of the 7th Biblical month, Tishri, of some unknown year (Yom Teruah, the feast which we can’t know when it will happen until the new moon shows up shortly after sundown, which is its beginning. All other feasts are somewhere in the middle of the month, and are thus known well before they happen)
If one counts back the days from the end of the sixth month, it is found to be Purim, which is on the 14th day of the 12th month, Adar, 3.5 years earlier. If any Adar Bets were to occur in that time frame, it would not work out, so we do know that the first resurrection will have to occur in a period beginning the second year after an Adar Bet has happened.
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Obviously that would require miraculous intervention.
Gog is the ‘angel’ prince that leads the nation under his control into war. He is not a human.
Recall Gabriel fighting the “prince of Persia” as noted in Daniel?
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It sounds like that is the order though.
Luke 21:18 "But there shall not an hair of your head perish."
Revelation 9:4 "And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads."
I don’t think anyone can say who with any confidence.
The strongest argument is Prince Charles, whose name totals 666 in English, Hebrew, and Latin. (could they have done that deliberately? I tend to doubt it)
Thank you for the reply.
"I think he said 'The Empire of the Antichrist is Near!'"
If indeed the Antichrist is a demon-possessed man (likely possessed by Satan himself), then some of the titles of given to the Antichrist (like the “Prince of Tyre” since the Antichrist will rule over Lebanon) can to refer to the demon-possessed man as well as to the demon who has possessed the man.
Who tempted Christ?
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