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To: DiogenesLamp

I could care less about impressing you or anyone else. I simply post the facts.
Your “a dicto simpliciter” sweeping generalization that because courts have on occasion made bad decisions means that all court decisions are bad and the entire legal system is corrupt is illogical thinking.

I understand that you don’t much care for the decisions that have been rendered on this issue but the fact remains that under our system, court decisions stand until and unless they are overturned.

In my humble opinion, the way to address the Obama eligibility issue constitutionally is through Congress, not through the civil (lawsuit) courts. No lawsuit is going to impact the tenure of the presidency.

I further believe that a criminal (not civil) indictment by a grand jury of average American citizens could force a resignation under the 25th Amendment, as it did with Nixon; but no one has yet filed an official criminal complaint which could trigger a grand jury investigation.

Congress, on the other hand, had the power to refuse to certify Obama’s electors under the 12th Amendment. Congress also has the power to remove Obama from office under Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5, Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7, and under Article 2, Section 4.


102 posted on 03/31/2014 1:35:00 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus
Your “a dicto simpliciter” sweeping generalization that because courts have on occasion made bad decisions means that all court decisions are bad and the entire legal system is corrupt is illogical thinking.

And didn't you just post an entire series of examples of the courts making consistently bad decisions? Not sure how you are asserting a "Sweeping Generalization" when every case you mentioned is another such example.

As for "Illogical thinking", suppose you have a guard that once in awhile, for no rational reason, punches someone trying to walk past him.

Does the fact that he usually gets it right convince you that he should remain on the job? How many such Instances would *YOU* tolerate? The Courts need to get it right, EVERY SINGLE TIME.

I understand that you don’t much care for the decisions that have been rendered on this issue but the fact remains that under our system, court decisions stand until and unless they are overturned.

The "system" which we are supposed to respect is the same "system" which has been undermined by these decisions. If the Judges won't respect the "system", then why should we respect the system for the sake of the Judges?

In my humble opinion, the way to address the Obama eligibility issue constitutionally is through Congress, not through the civil (lawsuit) courts. No lawsuit is going to impact the tenure of the presidency.

If you believe that a ruling that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen, and is therefore ineligible to be President, would NOT affect the tenure of the Presidency, then there is no hope of persuading you about anything else. I just don't think you have ever contemplated what a powerful political effect would be the result of such a decision.

The courts might not have force of arms with which to remove this man, but do not think such a decision would not have a massive impact on this man's public office.

At this point, I'm thinking widespread riots would be the more preferable outcome.

103 posted on 03/31/2014 1:58:26 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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