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Careful.

In the Judeo-Christian story of Genesis, God cursed not just Adam and Eve but His creation.

Whether you believe it or not, best not to argue from a bad premise.

No well-read Christian (or Jew for that matter) views the fallen world as perfect. What God called good or very good was all before the fall.

Next attack point?

;-)

Now, understand that I know that ‘natural selection’ and mutations are real; and that recombinant DNA is a demonstrable reality; and that the definition of a ‘species’ is subject to debate.

Here’s where I have trouble with ‘evolution’ as currently espoused:
1. It generally is argued from a God-less perspective; i.e, there IS and WAS no Divine action.
2. It never answers the ‘how’ worth a flip, and its supporters have never really passed the hurdle of the ‘irreducible complexity’.
3. Its supporters cannot present a logical case for the presence of complex information in the genetic code.
4. Speciation (recall the definition is fungible) doesn’t seem to happen in real life - just the clever diagrams of fish walking on to dry land and becoming humans. Species can reproduce within the species. WHERE, *ever* in nature has one species evolved into another?

Let’s take these in reverse.

4. Speciation by evolution, i.e., the chance creation of a new species from the prior, implies the new one that cannot sexually reproduce with the prior species, or it it only a variant, not a new species. Gradualism doesn’t work in genetics - almost doesn’t count. Man descended from apes, well, non-human primates anyways, so goes the story. Apes and humans have a different number of chromosomes and other genetic differences, so a chance human offspring born to an ‘ape’ mother has “no” chance of breeding with an ape and producing producing fertile offspring. My question to you in this one example is this: over and over throughout the long history of purported speciation by chance and mutation, what did the first new members of the nascent species mate with? Hard to start a new lineage, be it a shrew or a human, with only one member of the species. It’s a REAL STRETCH to offer that ONE human ‘evolved’ at exactly the same time as another one, found each other, and produced a surviving population. It’s REALLY hard to go with that, unless there is a ‘god’ involved. Mathematically and naturally, it’s a non-starter.

So there’s the issue of how does genuine speciation REALLY happen, and thrive? Show it to me in today’s biology, please.

3. Information in the genetic code. OK, I await your (not just yours, not picking on you) explanation for the thousands and thousands of lines of logical code in the DNA of even bacteria. Billions of years of ‘monkeys at the keyboard’ molecular chance activity? Ever studied the SCIENCE (demonstrable, measurable, repeatable) of how a gene is duplicated, expressed or suppressed? You REALLY want to justify that a program analogous in complexity to LINUX occurred through the chances of Chemistry? A couple REALLY smart guys, with more degrees than I could ever earn — Singer and Collins - can take you through the ILLOGIC of arguing for information in DNA by chance. It’s easy to see how it could be there IF there is a Divine entity. Absent Divine intervention, it’s several orders of magnitude beyond Global Warming theory to ‘believe’ it got there by chemistry and physics.

2. Irreducible complexity. Evolution theory paints a broad brush over the HOW of its ideas. Scientists who aren’t afraid to have God in the model can see that evolution theory crumbles when asked to show how organs and organelles ‘evolved’. Like the eye, or the glomerulus. Or how might one explain, logically, the life cycle of certain aquatic organisms that require multiple symbiotic or parasitic hosts to survive.

If you want to read about “irreducible complexity” in layman’s terms, read Ann Coulter’s GODLESS. She covers it quite nicely.

The point is this: the theory of evolution NEVER explains HOW a primitive eyespot, sensitive to light can become even the eye of a shark. IT essentially just calls for a Deus est machina moment of ‘it just did over millions of years. Evolutionists cannot explain this sort of complexity within a species, let alone speciation.

1. Evolutionist are generally god-less. Perhaps not atheists, but they seek a reality absent the actions or will or intent of a deity. I used to be that way. I am now comfortable with faith in a Deity who ordered the universe and life in it.

Perhaps look at it this way: there is either a God, or there is not. If there IS a God, then everything could have been designed and ordered by Him. ANYTHING is possible in the NATURAL for a SUPERnatural Creator. If there is no God, then explain it all to me with a FAR BETTER theory than Darwinism.

THanks for listening.