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To: WXRGina
By logical extension, then, matter and energy had to come into being by some force outside the universe.

Humm.... no, by logical extension matter and energy (that may be redundant) did come from somewhere within the universe as the definition of universe means the totality of all that exists. There is nothing outside the universe and the creator is part of the universe.

13 posted on 02/06/2014 7:21:22 PM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: Fzob

Except that by common usage “universe” is frequently understood as the totality of all *natural* things, that is, mainly material things. As evolution is an adjunct of the larger proposition of materialism, it is easy to understand why this usage occurs as a means of distinguishing the Creator, a Spirit, from His material creation, which in turn is a key feature of traditional Christian theology.


19 posted on 02/06/2014 7:41:25 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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