Posted on 01/31/2014 1:28:43 PM PST by usalady
Thanks for posting. Solutions BUMP!
Martha, Martha, Martha. Please craft your sentences more carefully.
You sound like my 5th grade teacher; Sister Justina. You aren’t hiding a ruler behind your back are you?
Leftist are not big fans of critical thinking
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In a completely privatized system of education, your every wish would be fulfilled.
The best “locally controlled” school is a **private** school!
The solution to our nation's education woes is to begin the process of privatizing all education.
ieldmarshaldj nails it. Read up on Tip O’Neill, who was the Dem speaker of the House. It was amazing Reagan accomplished as much as he did.
It isn't working out all that well. Private schools work best when they control the curriculum, admittance and the parents of the students pay the bills. They work best when there is no interference about discipline or religious principles, etc.
As soon as the government gets involved, through vouchers, giving government money to private schools, and imposing state and federal rules, those private schools begin bringing the public school problems inside their doors. They've lost control.
That's why I suggest that going back to neighborhood schools is the answer. Let the parents be accountable with their neighborhood, it means there's a free flow of information about what's going on, and it means that the identity of the school is tied to the identity of the neighborhood. Most people old enough to remember will say that the problems began with busing, which is when the federal government started telling states and localities how to run their schools.
Wow. I wish that was short enough to put as a tagline.
Generally a good post, but I think you’re dead wrong on vouchers. Why: he who pays the piper calls the tune. And as this article illustrates, more and more parents are abandoning the government schools without vouchers.
What I think we should do at this point is really nothing much other than defend parent’s rights to home educate and go after government school budgets. And simply continue to highlight the problems of the government schools. The problem is already curing itself: parents are voting with their feet.
In 10-15 years I expect that government schools will be the sole reserve of the permanent underclass. And that’s as it should be: it’s a welfare system.
“There’s plenty of blame to go around.”
Yes, there is. But why bother to assign it? The failure is obvious and apparent to all but the most ignorant or self-delusional. The important thing is to get as many kids out of this failed welfare system as possible.
“Here’s the interesting thing... nearly all of the other students also live in this same area... which means if all the parents simultaneously left the private school and instead sent them to the local public school... the school public school would literally almost triple overnight and the demographics of that school would shift dramatically.”
That’s good news. Here’s a laudable goal: get the remaining kids out of the government school and watch it close down.
“The solution to our nation’s education woes is to begin the process of privatizing all education.”
Amen sister. This article is chock-a-block full of happy news.
Re: Returning to government-run neighborhood schools.
Neighborhood government schools are still socialist-entitlement and single-payer schools. In these schools children risk learning to be comfortable with compulsory socialism. They also risk learning that any neighborhood voting mob powerful enough to give them tuition-free schooling is powerful enough to give them **LOTS** of “free” stuff.
At the very best our nation's historically local-controlled schools were generically and lukewarmly Protestant in their worldview. If we were to return to that model what would we get for a religious philosophical worldview? Feel-good, lukewarm, and generic spiritualism?
Even when I started teaching, schools were run by their communities. Poorer towns made do and provided the education they deemed most sensible for their residents. These schools were the focus of the community. State required subjects were at a minimum. Discipline is much easier to maintain with a stable, local population. Courses that prepared people for work skills upon graduation were much more common. Today, it would be even easier, as advanced course options could be online.
The worst of both worlds is turning out to be the charter schools. When there were just a few of them, they were highly selective and could remove trouble makers easily. But as their numbers increase, they bring with them all of the problems of the public schools while depriving public schools of some of the best students and community motivators having an impact.
It's another example of when people identify what's wrong, usually accurately, and the government comes in with a solution and makes it even worse.
I find it interesting that our resident idiot, Sheila Jackson Lee is FOR school vouchers! Ironic, huh? She knows the broken down condition and pathetic learning environment of her area of Houston and has seen how people line up for the few vouchers currently offered for the better schools. Apparently there are a few working brain cells still rattling around underneath her Swiss Miss braid
I saw a great comment yesterday on a website promoting homeschooling. A teacher was ranting about our choices and said that homeschooling was a slap in the face of teachers and all they had to endure. I stopped and read it a couple of times and thought, does he realize what he is actually saying? Why would we want to have our children endure what he has to endure every day? lol
Oh! I see you are a teacher in a government owned SS school. ( Single-payer and socialist-entitlement school.)
You just want to return to local tyranny over the hearts, minds, conscience, and First Amendment human rights of the taxpayers and the children under government compulsion to attend these “locally” controlled socialist-entitlement and single-payer camps.
I see! I get it. If the tyrannized citizen doesn’t like what the voting mob is forcing on his kids or forcing him to support....well!...He can JUST MOVE! ( Simple! Right?) /s
I get it! IF a parent doesn’t like the NON-neutral worldview forced by the “local” government on innocent children, the local government graciously “allows” him to RANSOM his kid by paying extra for private schooling.
Wow! How generous of you. /s
Back in the ‘60s and ‘70s the parents and the communities did have local control over most of the curriculum. Most insane theories didn’t get implemented. I want to go back to the time BEFORE federal government dictated what was taught.
In a few decades, people using Obamacare will say the same thing you are saying about the SS schools of the 60s and 70s. Gee! It wasn't so bad back in 2014. We should go back to the SS health care of 2014.
Don't you get it? Socialism ALWAYS deteriorate. Socialism ALWAYS moves from local control to state control and then on to federal control. It is an unstoppable train.
And...In the 1960s and 70s, while the teaching methods were likely more effective, the schools were NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT neutral ( religiously, politically, or culturally). No school can be because such a philosophical state of neutrality is impossible in the mind of any sentient human. Even in the mind of college of education graduates with less than stellar SATs, ACTs, and GREs.
Government compulsory schooling has **always** been a First Amendment and freedom of conscience ABOMINATION!
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