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Indyk orchestrating campaign of former generals to 'convince' Israel it can give up Jordan Valley
Israel Matzav ^ | 1/16/14 | Carl In Jerusalem

Posted on 01/16/2014 10:59:07 AM PST by Nachum

It's no coincidence that we've been seeing stories all week that one former IDF general after another is suddenly claiming that we can give up the Jordan Valley. Former US ambassador to Israel and 'peace process' babysitter Martin Indyk is orchestrating an organized campaign using former IDF generals to pressure Prime Minister Netanyahu to give the Jordan Valley to the 'Palestinians.' A report in Maariv Thursday said the the State Department had drafted many military officials who have worked with IDF officers, at various levels, in an orchestrated campaign to pressure the Israelis that there is no danger in surrendering the region in order to sign a deal with the Palestinian Authority. The report said that the effort was being orchestrated by former U.S. Ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk. The plan is to build a lobby among Israeli security officials to support a major American push for Israel to agree to surrender the Jordan Valley. Between external pressure from the U.S. and internal pressure from the Israeli lobby and the media, Kerry hopes to be able to push Israel into making the decision, without which the Palestinian Authority will not agree to the peace framework he is pushing. That pressure campaign was allegedly behind Defense Minister Moshe 'Boogie' Yaalon calling US Secretary of State John FN Kerry an 'obsessive messianic' on Tuesday. Yaalon made his comments in a private setting and apparently did not expect them to be quoted in the media. Yedioth Aharonoth, which broke the story, is the second most Leftist newspaper in Israel after the Hebrew 'Palestinian' daily Haaretz.

Meanwhile, military historian Aryeh Yitzhcaki argues that substantively, Indyk's generals are wrong. “A storm of Arab unrest is raging to the east,” said Yitzchaki, as just one look at the situation in Iraq shows. Muslim radicals have made great advances there, and the country is on the verge of being turned into a terrorist state. In the past, Israel was concerned that a strong Iraqi army could join with Jordan and Syria in attacking Israel. That danger still exists – as does the danger that Iraq could export its radical revolution to those countries as well, he added. Rebels in Syria are working with their comrades in Iraq, with the aim to build a united Arab nation, called “A-Sham.” If they succeed, there is little chance Jordan could survive in its current form, and Israel will be facing on its eastern border a huge, and very hostile, Arab terror state, he said. “We are headed for a very 'hot summer' on our eastern border,” Yitzchaki said. “Those in charge of our defense must look at the situation from all angles, and understand that without a presence in the gateway to the Land of Israel, the Jordan Valley, Israel's security will be compromised. Immediately to the east things look calm, but 100 kilometers beyond a monster is being built.” And perhaps this is the place to deal with the substance of Yaalon's comments on Tuesday. After a detailed explanation of how the media work in Israel, why Yedioth published the story and how it got out of hand, JPost's Herb Keinon writes that there are an awful lot of Israelis who agree with Yaalon (including yours truly). Through it all, what was lost was what Ya’alon said: that Kerry is obsessed with the Israeli-Palestinian issue; that he approaches it like someone on a messianic mission; that the negotiations are being conducted not between Israel and the Palestinians, but by each side with the Americans, not a healthy way to negotiate; and that the security arrangements the US is recommending are simply not acceptable. Save the characterization of Kerry as being motivated by a messianic sentiment, and that he should just “take his Nobel Prize and leave us alone,” Ya’alon’s sentiments are neither illegitimate nor crazy. Nor are they his alone. Many have asked why Kerry seems to be focusing like a laser beam on the Israel-Palestinian situation, when there are so many other, even more pressing issues, in the region. As Fouad Ajami wrote last week in The Wall Street Journal: “The ground burns in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Borders are being contested, and militant Islamists have all but overwhelmed secular authorities. Yet America’s chief diplomat, Secretary of State John Kerry, was in the neighborhood this week, for the 10th time, on an expedition to Israel and the Palestinian territories.” Ya’alon’s comment that it was unwise to run the negotiations through the Americans, rather than directly between the sides, is not outlandish, nor is his claim that Israel seems to have made all the concessions up until this point. Is a pledge not to wage diplomatic war with Israel in diplomatic forums around the world – what the Palestinians “gave” to enter the talks – equal to Israel’s release of 104 convicted terrorists? And as to Ya’alon’s remark about the unacceptability of a US security plan for the day after an agreement is signed, is it not his job, as defense minister, to voice his reservations? His problem is that he voiced them in the wrong way, and in the wrong forum. But no one should be mistaken: What Ya’alon said rather inelegantly, many other Israelis – both inside and outside the corridors of power – are thinking. Read the whole thing. We all know why this is happening (which Keinon does not discuss): The Obama administration needs an 'achievement,' Israel is the Middle Eastern country most susceptible to American pressure, and if the parties negotiated directly they would never reach an agreement. And you thought an international conference was a bad idea?

Over the last few weeks, my daily Talmud class has been learning about the scapegoat, the goat that was pushed off a cliff each year on Yom Kippur to atone for the Jewish people's sins. I'm identifying more and more with the scapegoat these days. Labels: Barack Hussein Obama, John Kerry, Jordan Valley, Martin Indyk, Messianics, Moshe Yaalon, Obama's obsession with Israel, Obama's obsession with Palestinians, State Department obsession with Israel


TOPICS: Government; Religion
KEYWORDS: campaign; indyk; israel; orchestrating
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1 posted on 01/16/2014 10:59:07 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Because the Pals will be happy to safeguard the flow of the Jordan and share the water, just like they do the Temple Mount....


2 posted on 01/16/2014 11:01:06 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Nachum

There’s a ton of very evil money behind this (highly orchestrated) effort to dismember and weaken Israel (so she can be quickly destroyed in Phase 2).

Expect more and more of this krap for the next three years...


3 posted on 01/16/2014 11:01:41 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: Nachum

It sounds like Indyk should be sent home and Kerry told it is not convenient that he return to Israel. Israel needs new allies. The current US Administration is its enemy and is working to prepare Israel for destruction.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 11:04:11 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Nachum

NO!

Israel consists of all the land from Littany River south , all the land up to the Jordan River and including the heights of Golan . All the land down the Gulf of Aquaba and including all of the Sinai , to Sharm al Sheikh and Gaza , to the border of old Egypt (Suez) THAT is Israel .


5 posted on 01/16/2014 11:07:05 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Nachum

our country is going to be cursed.

What Yhwh will do to America is nothing compared to what Obama will do to America.


6 posted on 01/16/2014 11:12:58 AM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: LeoWindhorse

I have been to Israel. It was a good trip and I met some real good people.


7 posted on 01/16/2014 11:24:43 AM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: All

Israel made good faith concessions during the deliberations that led up to the Wye River Accord.

And look what it got them. Just as much (if not more terrorism) as they were experiencing before.

Giving up the Jordan Valley will not improve things for Israel.

As much as Israel would love not having to deal with almost daily rocket attacks and homicide bombers, this ISN’T the way to do it.


8 posted on 01/16/2014 11:33:40 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Nachum
I really hope Bibi tells the State department to perform an unnatural act upon themselves. Why are we pressuring our best ally in the region to do anything?

I really wonder about our State department sometimes. Who are they really working for ?

9 posted on 01/16/2014 12:55:04 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: faithhopecharity

Very true... turns out Indyk’s on Qatar/Qaradawi’s payroll.


10 posted on 05/14/2017 10:51:37 PM PDT by piasa
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