In segment one, you can see the church in question on the right hand side. Mr. Deffert is across the street and well away from the church.
So hold on, I can not simultaneously exercise my right to free speech by talking to myself and my right to bear arms? Does the question of whether a policeman is justified in shooting a non-violent but armed citizen really hinge on whether or not the citizen was talking?
Cop with an attitude seems to be a far greater danger.
>>The question is, where does Officer Moe come up with the assertion that Mr. Deffert is talking to himself?
The same place that most “probable cause” comes from. They pull it out of their....imagination.
“I smelled marijuana smoke.”
“I thought I heard screams”
“He was crossing the white line.”
“The dog was threatening me.”
and now
“He was talking to himself.”
Thought the headline started with M1 Garand . . . .
We should do the same to the police for “open carry”. I mean, come on. I don’t even own a handgun, but for pity sakes. Tough guy with a small penis attitude wants to arrest him
Well just Krap! I got to go blockade the door! I talk to myself all the time, sometimes it is to my dogs. It is just thinking out loud. The dogs do on occasion look at me funny though. They cock their heads like whatcha mean Daddy?
Deffert was alone, and was loudly talking to himself,” Moe wrote. “Based on the area, and Deffert’s unusual behavior, R/O (responding officer) was concerned Deffert may have mental issues and was about to commit a violent crime.”
Which of these things have you never done?
Walked somewhere alone
Talked to yourself
Being in an area (no I have zero idea what that is either)
According to this Police Officer and his superiors you may have been about to commit a crime.. You certainly were/are mental....
In Arizona, hardly anyone gives a second thought to open carry. In Michigan, its highly unusual. But, it appears that the cop is greatly embellishing facts with his own creative ones.
The “talking to nobody” allegation is in segment one. The repeated allegation is in segment two.
In segment one, you can see the church in question on the right hand side. Mr. Deffert is across the street and well away from the church.
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The segment one video makes it VERY clear that the “talking to no one” allegation is simply being MADE UP by the stupid first officer. The officer is in his patrol car between 1/2 block to one block behind the citizen who is open carrying. The citizen is walking away from where the patrol officer is when the cop said the citizen was “talking to no one” statement. The cop is inside his patrol car with the windows up so there is no way he could have heard any such “self talking” even if it were actually occurring.
Thank goodness for these complete squad car videos with excellent sound recordings. I’m sure the citizen’s attorneys will be making good use of them—particularly in conjunction with the related 911 call recording and the 911 operator’s recorded radio traffic with the patrol cars.
The city is going to lose this civil lawsuit BIG TIME if it ever goes to trial. And the damages awarded will NOT be small potatoes. I’d be very surprised if the city didn’t first reach a settlement with the abused citizen. Unless of course the city government is as stupid as the first cop.
It’s amateur hour in much of Law Enforcement nowadays.
I talk to myself all the time. When my son gives me a hard time, I just tell him I’m the smartest person I know so why wouldn’t I talk to myself.
Just sayin
I talk to myself a lot. I only think that the wife is actually listening - I guess you can add “delusional” to my failings....