[central_va]

Nowhere in the constitution does it give them the right.

Show me the article/section prohibiting secession. The USC would not have been ratified if their was a "roach motel" clause - states go in the union but can't get out.

[driftless2]

Show me the one allowing it. The constitution also doesn't say anything about private citizens having their own nuclear missiles. It doesn't mention many things. That doesn't give citizens or states the right to anything they want because it's not specifically mentioned in the constitution. Why do you think they call it a union? What kind of nutty country would it be if any state could leave at any time?

But I've had this discussion with you before. And we both know why. If you want to call it a rebellion, fine. But by definition, you can't secede from a union unless all sides agree. As much as I like to see many liberal areas secede from the union, I can't find a constitutional clause allowing it.

[KrisKrinkle]

The USC would not have been ratified if their was a "roach motel" clause - states go in the union but can't get out.

Why not? They signed up to the "Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the states of New Hampshire, Massachusetts-bay Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia."

That "perpetual Union" part seems like the "roach motel" clause you write about, although it seems to me more like the "till death do us part" clause in the marriage union, which is another union you can't just unilaterally walk out on when you feel like it and expect no repercussions.