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Karl Rove and the GOP Socialists
American Spectator ^ | January 2, 2014 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 01/02/2014 7:40:18 AM PST by Shery

Edited on 01/02/2014 7:41:52 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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REALLY GOOD article by Jeffrey Lord today! We need to stay informed about the antics of Karl Rove, et al. I have commented NUMEROUS times here and on other sites that the Socialist wing of the republican party who do NOT believe in small government need to find another party, as we, who do believe in small government, should get to keep the party platform we like instead of them running on our platform and doing the opposite after the election. He also stated that we need to be wary of those who proclaim to be tea party conservatives, but change colors later. We are going to have to ask candidates a lot more questions so we can ascertain where they have been in the past, who they've supported and why. In other words, as Scripture says, "be as wise as serpents but as innocent as doves."
1 posted on 01/02/2014 7:40:19 AM PST by Shery
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To: Shery

Sorry for the misspelling of GOP. Argh! I didn’t catch that one before posting!


2 posted on 01/02/2014 7:42:31 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Shery

Your misspelled version sounded like it would have been an interesting article.


3 posted on 01/02/2014 7:48:44 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (Five years, my brain hurts a lot.)
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To: Shery

Lord does some great work over there.


4 posted on 01/02/2014 7:49:45 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Shery

But for the tea party the republican party would happily advance the godless socialist agenda of the democrats and Karl knows that which is why he is out to kill conservatism.


5 posted on 01/02/2014 8:11:35 AM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: Shery

The Liberals hate Big Business
The Libertarians hate Big Government

They are both wrong, the issue is with the collusion between BOTH of the “Bigs” in order to keep the upstart Medium/Small Business and Local/State government ground down beneath their boots.

Keeping upstart Businesses ie. Competition down is just as important to the control freaks as is keeping small and medium government ie. Local and State governments down under the heel of federal control.

“Competition is a Sin” to the control freaks as they want to the kings and queens of everything... they will use laws written by “Bigs” that appear on the surface to supposedly punish the “Bigs” which in execution will punish the small/medium segments of private and public society. How is this done? By increasing the bureaucratic overhead which is more easily handled by the big, and a huge burden for the smaller operators. This is precisely WHY obama care if the tangled mess of spaghetti code and committees that it is.


6 posted on 01/02/2014 8:17:03 AM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Big Business provides the Dems with huge political contributions. Crony capitalism is thriving under Obama.


7 posted on 01/02/2014 8:29:52 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

[ Big Business provides the Dems with huge political contributions. Crony capitalism is thriving under Obama. ]

As they do with the Big Government RINOs as well.

The lie we have been fed by the RINOs is that ALL Big Business is as a clean as the wind driven snow....

The Only clean Big Business is one that doesn’t use the Big Government as tool to keep their competition down... and that list shrinks every year...

The thing the Libs don’t get it that Big Government is Inherently evil while a Big Business by itself with no collusion with the government is not necessarily evil all of the time. You can pick products of a shelf, stare and compare so to speak, you cannot do so with government.... it is a mandate that you are stuck with...


8 posted on 01/02/2014 8:36:39 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Shery

Finally, someone calls the GOP Establishment, “socialists”.

The word explains exactly whom and what they have enabled in and around Congress, failed to oppose, and generally supported, while trying to persuade us voters that all their nose picking laxity toward the Republican platform and the Constitution itself is, somehow, a
laudible.

LOL!


9 posted on 01/02/2014 8:44:18 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Shery

We wouldn’t be getting this kind of attention from the GOPe if we weren’t scaring the screaming squirts out of them, something Democrats, no matter how insane, never seem to do. Keep up the good work Tea Party.


10 posted on 01/02/2014 8:46:52 AM PST by pallis
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To: Shery

We will continue to suffer until the GOPe and its minions are voted out of office.

Period. The End. Through.


11 posted on 01/02/2014 9:03:03 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: Shery
This began during the Roosevelt Era.

The Republican Establishment began its transition from the "Party of Main Street," to the "Party of Wall Street," and its long association as the junior partner of the Democrat Party.

In exchange for gerrymandered safe seats, the Republicans became the usual "Default Minority," reliable cavers on major issues in exchange for favors for fat-cat contributors and a goodly share of the pork for the chumps back home. Need proof? Just consider the utter failure of the Republican Party to achieve any goals when they have a majority.

The Archetypical Republican Platform? "We can give you more government goodies much more efficiently than those Democrats, and we're from much nicer families."

You think an SOB like Boehner happened overnight?

12 posted on 01/02/2014 9:03:16 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (This GOP is dead. What do we do now?)
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To: Shery
Please notice the booth featured in the picture……the booth at CPAC this year for this:
13 posted on 01/02/2014 9:06:00 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Shery; Liz; sickoflibs

Excellent article that really portrays the blunt truth about the abysmal state of the GOP establishment and their crony enablers.


14 posted on 01/02/2014 9:14:32 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Shery

Centrist Republican = Democrat mole


15 posted on 01/02/2014 9:17:51 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Shery
One might point out that leadership of the U. S. Chamber of Commerce presided over the great exodus from America of manufacturers and producers of prosperity over recent decades.

Had they been listening to some business leaders during the 80's and 90's, the Chamber's leaders might have effectively stemmed the tide which has produced our current dilemma.

Back in the 80's, there were business leaders who understood what was happening and tried to warn of the impending danger to American prosperity and freedom.

In Texas, there was Eddie Chiles, of The Western Company and owner of the Texas Rangers. An advocate for less federal government intrusion, Chiles was also known for his 1970's radio commentaries. His trade-mark was, "I'm Eddie Chiles, and I'm mad as hell."

In North Carolina, there was W. David Stedman, also urging his fellow business leaders, employees and public against the growth of government spending and debt and pleading for a return to the ideas of the American Declaration and Constitution. The cartoon below contains the ideas of both, for, with permission, another famous Chiles remark was incorporated into the Stedman cartoon. The Stedman ad series culminated in a 1987 292-page book on America's founding principles ("Our Ageless Constitution") and is now available here

How sad that these great Americans were not heeded, for their message is as true today as it was in the 1980's. Cartoon - Spending

On the other hand, Evans, in his book, "America's Choice: Twilight's Last Gleaming or Dawn's Early Light," suggested 7 simple principles which every citizen could benefit from considering as they watch the so-called "progressives" attempt to enslave them through legislation and Executive Orders.

"1. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, individual freedom and creativity?

"2. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, the power of some citizens over other citizens?

"3. Does this legislation or idea recognize that the persons who will exercise the power are themselves imperfect human beings?

"4. Does this legislation or idea recognize that government is incapable of creating wealth?

"5. Does this legislation or idea authorize taking from some what belongs to them, and giving it to others to whom it does not belong?
If 'thou shalt not steal' is a valid commandment, can we assume that it is meant to apply only to individuals and not to government (which is made up of individuals), even if those persons in power pass laws which sanction such redistribution of the wealth of others?'

"6. Does this legislation or idea encourage, or discourage, the very highest level of morality and responsibility from the individual?
. . .when government makes actions 'legal' by some citizens at the expense of other citizens, the result may be behavior which would not be considered possible by individuals acting alone.

"7. Does this legislation or idea propose that the 'government' do something which the individual cannot do without committing a crime?"**

**7 principles drawn from James R. Evans book, "America's Choice," and reprinted in a Stedman Corporation (Asheboro, NC) booklet entitled "I'm Only One, What Can I Do?"

"...nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers, and destroyers press upon them so fast, that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon the American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the pensioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited, and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity, and frugality, become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, luxury, foppery, selfishness, meanness, and downright venality swallow up the whole society." - John Adams

"...there have always been those who wish to enlarge the powers of the General Government. There is but one safe rule...confine (it) within the sphere of its appropriate duties. It has no power to raise a revenue or impose taxes except for the purposes enumerated in the Constitution....Every attempt to exercise power beyond these limits should be promptly and firmly opposed." - Andrew Jackson's Valedictory

"...experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government), those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny; and it is believed that the most effectual means of preventing this would be, to illuminate...the minds of the people...to give them knowledge of those facts, which history exhibiteth. History, by apprizing them of the past, will enable them to judge of the future...it will qualify them as judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views...." - Jefferson's Bill for the more general diffusion of knowledge for Virginia

"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant--they have been cheated; asleep--they have been surprised; divided--the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson?...the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it....It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." - James Madison

The Taxed Enough Already movement seems to understand and articulate the ideas which underlay the Founders' warnings, as well as those of the Reagan-era business leaders quoted above.

Such ideas cannot be a threat to any but those who prefer government tyranny over individual freedom.


16 posted on 01/02/2014 9:21:20 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: GraceG

When you have government (federal, state, and local) controlling directly over 40% of GDP, you can expect businesses to look to government for choosing winners and losers. Cronyism is a way of life.


17 posted on 01/02/2014 9:25:04 AM PST by kabar
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To: Shery

bttt


18 posted on 01/02/2014 9:44:56 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God)
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To: TADSLOS

Savvy conservatives had Rove’s number...way back when he came in w/ GWB.

More recently, American Crossroads donors were furious when Romney lost-—demanded Rove explain what happened to the $300 million they gave him on his assurances of a win.

Rove musta had a nice lifestyle w/ all that money.

Now Karlo’s running around like a stuck pig. Let him squeal, I say. He has no credibility with us.

All the Repubs are now doing the Christie Act-—how CC said he won big-—how he destroyed Democrats by talking tough in public (but doing the conservative thing like defunding Planned Parenthood, and so on, in private).

So I don’t mind getting a tongue-lashing-—and give Karl enough rope....he’ll hang himself.


19 posted on 01/02/2014 10:53:37 AM PST by Liz
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To: TADSLOS; Shery; Liz
From the link:
Using the GOP Establishment as a launching pad to ensure that Reagan-style conservatives — the base of the Republican Party — are defeated by Establishment, statist Republicans. Republicans who will in turn so anger the GOP base that the base simply refuses to turn out in November. Thus handing President Obama and the statist forces of Big Government a victory they should never have had and in fact would be unable to earn on their own.”

This seems very unlikely(GOP losing this November).

Dems will take a beating this November and both parts of GOP will take the credit for it, just like they both pointed fingers of blame at each other for 2012.

Come next November those who make the predictions of doom will be like those who predicted a huge victory in 2012, hoping we forget those predictions.

20 posted on 01/02/2014 4:56:25 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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