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Allowing a female to have a job when a male who performed the same would be failed is discrimination against males. But that's what social engineering is. Officially sanctioned discrimination to make up for some imagined past discrimination. But that's not how equality works.

Equality is not a oil well fire. Setting off a big blast of reverse discrimination does not snuff out discrimination; It just burns everything down.

1 posted on 12/28/2013 8:56:40 AM PST by servo1969
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Unfortunately, I believe a lot of people saw this coming when it was announced that women would be allowed into combat arms jobs.


2 posted on 12/28/2013 9:01:27 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: servo1969

Any nation sending women into the front lines of combat is either fighting for it’s very survival..... or dying from within.


3 posted on 12/28/2013 9:03:10 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: servo1969

The Pentagon has got to be filled with lesbians.


4 posted on 12/28/2013 9:07:34 AM PST by skeeter
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To: servo1969

I experienced this for the first time in 1970. I had been accepted to the Dallas Firefighter Academy and had my start date when a federal district judge ruled DFD had to hire all women until they reached 15% of their force. To do that they rolled back the requirement of carrying a 100 lb sack down a ladder and some other requirements. In order to make sure that they had enough women they reduced the rescuing functionality of firefighters.


5 posted on 12/28/2013 9:09:09 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: servo1969

When women can’t meet the standards, just lower the standard. That will only result in good Marines and soldiers getting killed.


7 posted on 12/28/2013 9:12:56 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: servo1969

Well, then, I guess the rope climb is no longer part of a Marine’s PT requirement either.


10 posted on 12/28/2013 9:14:09 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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Lowering the bar is what Obama is all about. It’s how he got his job. The left continues to display its stunning lack of understanding of combat, the economy, national security, diplomacy...you name it. This is a generation of Americans who were raised in a bubble of prosperity, safety and comfort, and they are incapable of understanding how they got there or how to preserve it.


12 posted on 12/28/2013 9:15:20 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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It would appear to me that the current P.C. military hierarchy is very obviously a bunch of pussies.
And their strategy may very well be one they lifted from the Mussies.
Place Women and children in the front lines to absorb the first shots, thus allowing the chicken men hiding behind them to locate the shooters.


14 posted on 12/28/2013 9:19:50 AM PST by DanZ
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To: servo1969

Marines are going to die having to save the female Marines because they are physically incapable of performing the duties necessary. Politically correct run amok.


16 posted on 12/28/2013 9:20:23 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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Remember Hagel and the other Democrats involved in this kept telling us that they would not lower physical training standards.

LOL!!!


18 posted on 12/28/2013 9:22:50 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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The Marine Corps is not lowering their standards. The pull-up requirement has always been a male only requirement. Females have always had to do the Flexed arm hang for score on the PFT. This requirement has nothing to do with women getting into a combat arms MOS. The PFT is the basic physical fitness test for Marines. If anything the Marine Corps wants all Marines, male and female to have the same standards on the PFT. What is happening is they are finding out that women are failing the pull-up requirement at a high rate. All the Marine Corps is doing is holding off on requiring females to do pull-ups until they can find a good way to get them there. This has been a bone of contention in the Marine Corps for decades, every Marine needs to be held to the same standard. The question is how do we get there without lowering our standards and how do we get there without losing otherwise good female Marines who need time to be able to meet those standards. The Marine Corps will get this figured out by the middle of the year. At that time females will be doing the same exact PFT the males do. The Flexed arm hang will die the death it deserves.


19 posted on 12/28/2013 9:40:55 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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We have a younger female relative in her teens.

She has been a competitive dancer since she was 6.

At an early age, she realized that she had to really do some tough and regular workouts besides dancing. So, she got herself in incredible shape at age 6 and has gotten better each year.

She can do 50 military push ups and a few one handed push ups.

She can kick a soccer ball accurately 70 yards in the air while on the run.

She could out run the boys in her class until her 6th grade, and up to last year only a few boys could out run her in the dashes and distance runs.

We joke that she has an 8 pack instead of a 6 pack ab.

She is an excellent markswoman with a shotgun or rifle and has shot wild turkeys and a deer. The deer was dropped at about 150 yards with one head shot.

She is in credible shape, but she can’t do a single pull up.

Nor can she pull herself up over a solid wall.

I doubt if she can do a hand over hand pull up a hanging rope.

A couple years ago, we took her her younger brother to an indoor climbing facility. She never made it to the top, and her younger brother had no problem pulling himself up the various foot/hand hold and did it several times.

Her Dad is an outstanding archer with targets and critters from wild hogs, deer, antelope and elk. She can’t pull a bow over 40# in pull weight. Her younger and smaller brother can load and pull a 70# bow and shoot arrows very accurately. Their Dad uses an even heavier pull weight compound bow.

By the time she is in her early 20’s, she will probably be in better shape and a better markswoman than 95% of any male population.

She is probably in the top 1 or 2% of women re strength, conditioning and other physical abilities.

Yet, she will probably never be able to do a pull up, go hand over hand on a hanging rope or scale a wall higher than her head.

There are probably dozens of other critical physical challenges a combat US Marine can do, that she will never be able to do.

Putting this exceptional physical conditioned woman in a platoon of Marines or in charge of a Marine Platoon would not be fair to her or the platoon.


20 posted on 12/28/2013 9:41:39 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: servo1969

PC Insanity: Female Marines Can’t Do Pullups But Will Be Allowed to Serve on Front Lines Anyway

Several issues with this.
What is a front line in our current wars?
Many women have been killed in our current wars. If they should not be in combat why were they thee and why did the die?
If dealing with a singular combat team (Seals, Rangers etc.) that is one thing but are we going to send women in to combat zones or not. We have been doing so for years..


21 posted on 12/28/2013 9:44:58 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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Marine officers would not talk to NPR on tape. They said they delayed the pullup requirement to avoid losing not only recruits but also current female Marines who can’t pass the test.

BS. They delayed it because they are afraid of being prosecuted for bias or hate or some other such made up crime. Or, they've been ordered to and won't say. Either way the pansy in the WH is prancing along his destruction of the Armed Forces of America.

22 posted on 12/28/2013 9:54:18 AM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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odumbi’s new Marines.....instead of Devil Dogs....odumbi recruits pussy cats.

He is just killing off more Patriots, this time female ones.


23 posted on 12/28/2013 9:55:53 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: servo1969

So, add seventy pounds of gear, ammo, and weapons... When it comes time to clear that obstacle or die I guess they will be dying. So will all the guys who were counting on the fire support. Great.


27 posted on 12/28/2013 10:03:30 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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They can’t even do THREE pull-ups? Our five-year-old grandchildren can do better than that.


28 posted on 12/28/2013 10:05:07 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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And I always thought “Pull-ups” were a sort of diaper panty for toddlers.........


35 posted on 12/28/2013 10:23:06 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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Marines will die because women are included in combat units.

1. The male propensity to protect women in built into male DNA and they will take chances when a woman can’t hold up in a fire fight.

2. When males and females are cast together in close quarters, as combat units are from training camps to the front lines, romances bud, jealousy rears its ugly head; consequences are that unit efficiency drops, unit rapport suffers and worse.

This is a very, very bad situation and whoever is responsible should be held accountable, IMO!


41 posted on 12/28/2013 10:33:53 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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Have they run out of a few more good men that they need women to fill the ranks?


62 posted on 12/28/2013 12:06:48 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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