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To: bolobaby

No.

We have been justifying offshoring now for an entire generation.

The result is, the only forces acting on America, are the forces behind the democrat party.

The republicans need to return to America. America needs to produce a lot of things, which we have sent elsewhere.

America needs factories, and America needs jobs.


9 posted on 11/28/2013 8:56:19 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Thank you. That was the post of the day. Post 7 can be translated as “If companies can’t pay their American call center drones 25 cents/hr. and give them no bennies whatsoever, then they should offshore. Viva unfettered capitalism.” Yawn.


10 posted on 11/28/2013 9:04:13 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
America needs factories, and America needs jobs.

If America can return to being a pro-business country, we will build many new factories and we will have many new jobs...but the jobs won't be in the factories.

Modern factories will be almost fully automated.

18 posted on 11/28/2013 9:28:46 AM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“We have been justifying offshoring now for an entire generation.”

The economics is what justifies offshoring. Unless we can make it economically viable to justify hiring Americans to do these jobs, it won’t ever happen.


21 posted on 11/28/2013 9:39:35 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“America needs factories, and America needs jobs.”

Great. I agree - America needs jobs. (It also needs to stop giving out disability benefits to everyone with joint discomfort, but that’s another story.)

I’ll tell you what: go start a call center firm like, say, Infocision (whose services my company has contracted in the past). Report back to me on...

1) The quality of resources you are able to hire for the hourly rate you are willing to pay

2) The ease at which you win contracts while paying a rate that actually attracts employees

3) Your profitability - or more likely, stunning lack thereof

I’m guessing you are not a principle or executive in a publicly traded company. I’m guessing you don’t have a responsibility to employ large numbers of people. I’m also guessing you have never had to make trade-offs to keep some very good people employed.

You are speaking philosophically, not practically. As an executive, I recognize the value of outsourcing. Here’s what I tell my American employees:

Outsourcing means job security for the full time staff. Why? Because I choose to meet variable capacity demands through contract - often offshore - labor. This keeps costs low so I can continue to employ my full timers, who are great. Moreover, when the variable capacity need wanes, I let the contractors go first instead of firing full timers. If I filled the variable need with full timers, I would have to lay off full timers when the time comes. Oh, and, by the way, this isn’t a tenured position - I’d lay off whoever I thought was doing the best job at that time, not who had been there the longest.

They tend to appreciate that. Contract labor comes and goes. My employees stay. I keep costs low and the business is successful. Stockholders win. My highly talented staff wins. Everyone wins.

Let me know when you actually have to make these kinds of decisions instead of just complaining about them.


41 posted on 11/28/2013 12:15:18 PM PST by bolobaby
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