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Medicare is Seizing Estates of anyone over 55.
Michael Armstrong's blog ^ | November 13, 2013 | Glen Downs

Posted on 11/13/2013 3:31:42 PM PST by Vince Ferrer

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Glen Downs is a congressional staffer in the current congress.
1 posted on 11/13/2013 3:31:42 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
Wonder how that works with a traditional homestead.

/johnny

2 posted on 11/13/2013 3:34:10 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Should it read Medicaid and not Medicare.


3 posted on 11/13/2013 3:36:45 PM PST by klamath (growth of the welfare state is difficult to check before it comes to its full flower of dictatorship)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I believe the author intended to write “Medicare” instead of “Medicaid” in the article.

Medicare is health coverage for older Americans that theoretically is paid for by payroll taxes.

Medicaid is Single Payer insurance for the poor, which will soon be most of the USA.


4 posted on 11/13/2013 3:36:45 PM PST by Junk Silver
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To: Vince Ferrer

So again, Governor Palin was right about slavery. Tell me again why she isn’t in a leadership position?


5 posted on 11/13/2013 3:37:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Many on the left see faith & family as oppressive, the right sees them as indispensable." Palin)
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To: Vince Ferrer

. . . which is why you place all your assets in a Living Trust. . . you technically, and legally, HAVE no assets. . .


6 posted on 11/13/2013 3:37:37 PM PST by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I guess Martin Armstrong’s title writer is confused between Medicare and Medicaid?

In my state, a representative attends probate hearings and cross-checks against known Medicaid recipients. All Medicaid expenditures, including premiums and capitation and not just limited to long-term care, delivered after the recipient is 55, are eligible for estate recovery.


7 posted on 11/13/2013 3:37:53 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you Something wrong here wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
In Ohio the state will allow a spouse of a recipient to stay in the home so as not to impoverish her/him, but when the home is vacated by the spouse it is auctioned or sold for recovery of assets. That's under existing law. IDK if or how Obamacare will change this. It is really not that unfair when you consider Medicaid is designed for impoverished people, not homeowners.
8 posted on 11/13/2013 3:38:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Vince Ferrer

I went to HS with Glen. He led our Americans Against Communism club.


9 posted on 11/13/2013 3:39:02 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The article fear mongers a bit with poor writing that implies that everyone on Medicaid/Medicare can have their homes seized after death.

...but the reality is probably just that early Medicaid/Medicare enrollees qualify for asset seizure...those 55 to 64.

People over 64+ going onto Medicaid/Medicare shouldn’t be in jeopardy of having their homes seized to pay for their medical care.


10 posted on 11/13/2013 3:39:51 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

uhh.... because she hasn’t run for one?


11 posted on 11/13/2013 3:39:53 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Salgak
You better do it now, then. In Ohio, probably other states as well, Medicaid has a lookback of five years.
12 posted on 11/13/2013 3:42:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: bigdaddy45

Presidents George Washington, Ulysses Grant, Dwight “Ike” Eisenhower and several others were drafted to be candidates. Did you know that?


13 posted on 11/13/2013 3:43:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Many on the left see faith & family as oppressive, the right sees them as indispensable." Palin)
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To: Salgak

Yes, but they are still counted as assets if the trust is revocable and you must put it in an irrevocable trust and it must be done far enough in advance of the application for medicaid benefits, at least 5 years in advance.

If you apply during that time it results in a calculated period of ineligibility for the benefits based on the value of the assets transferred away without fair compensation in return.


14 posted on 11/13/2013 3:43:38 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Vince Ferrer

If Glen Downs is such a clever guy, he should know the difference between Medicaid and Medicare.


15 posted on 11/13/2013 3:45:01 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: hinckley buzzard

It is thus in Minnesota as well, and you may not gain anything by transferring to a revocable trust.


16 posted on 11/13/2013 3:45:28 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Southack

He’s not fear mongering. He’s saying that since there is no longer an asset test, BUT there is still the mandate to recover costs, AND since all kinds of new people will be enrolling - the new enrollees may not know it, but it is possible ALL subsidies and cost under the ACA may be recoverable by asset sale after death.

IF that’s true, whoa Nellie.


17 posted on 11/13/2013 3:45:39 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Thanks for the info!


18 posted on 11/13/2013 3:46:49 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: steve86
I think what he is saying, is that many people will be moved from medicare to medicaid thanks to the ACA. Which will result in their assets being forfeited to pay for their care.
19 posted on 11/13/2013 3:47:53 PM PST by saleman
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To: Vince Ferrer

Madicaid is welfare. If someone has assets why should tax payers foot the bill.


20 posted on 11/13/2013 3:49:00 PM PST by DManA
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