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WOUNDED WARRIORS PROJECT IS A FRAUD
Coach is Right ^ | 11/11/13 | Dean Graham US Army Ret, Iraq Vet

Posted on 11/11/2013 8:53:48 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

The Wounded Warriors Project (WWP) pays millions of dollars for commercials showing injured service members. Many were forced to sign non-disclosure agreements (Why?). I have talked to many Veterans who were promised many things from WWP and did not receive anything in return for the use of their likeness in commercials and print ads.

The commercials do not mention anything WWP does to help the injured service members. Listen closely to the commercials as they parade an injured veteran around like an injured animal. They pay famous actors and musicians to pull on the nation’s heart strings. Fox News takes...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: foxnews; oefveterans; oifveterans; va; wwp
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1 posted on 11/11/2013 8:53:48 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Large sums of money and the Federal Government Laws for big charities have killed charity in America. It have allowed people to grab money through administration costs.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 8:58:48 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I have several friends who are very involved with charitable organizations working on behalf of veterans and others who are military bloggers. They are not impressed with Wounded Warriors and all that I know have withdrawn their support of this organization. It does not appear to be what it seems.


3 posted on 11/11/2013 8:59:27 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Oldpuppymax

According to Charity Navigator, WWP allocates 55 percent of its revenue to program expenses and 44.8 percent to fundraising and administrative expenses. That’s pretty poor.


4 posted on 11/11/2013 9:00:33 AM PST by dangus
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To: Oldpuppymax

I have no first-hand knowledge, but I’ve heard the same. There are plenty of other ways to help wounded veterans where the money will be properly used.


5 posted on 11/11/2013 9:02:03 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Oldpuppymax

This is news.....

I’d like to hear others assessment of the WWP.

There are several, solid, well intentioned, conservative media voices, supporting WWP.
I would have thought they vetted WWP.
Laura, Hugh, Bill, Dennis, etc....


6 posted on 11/11/2013 9:02:20 AM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Oldpuppymax
So, what happens with these things? Are they started by a well-meaning person then hijacked by money-grabbers? This is sickening.

Be skeptical of any charitable organization that advertises on television!

7 posted on 11/11/2013 9:02:40 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I make a general rule of not donating to charities whose admins make more than I ever did...


8 posted on 11/11/2013 9:03:00 AM PST by varmintman
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To: Oldpuppymax
As soon as WWP changed their CEOs (equivalents) I KNEW IT IS Going the way of United Ways and Red Cross.

They are after $$$$ humongous Businesses/Corporate money, not individual donations, and ALWAYS turn Lefties. As they will support gun control etc etc

Only a VERY small fraction of the donation they collected will be used for the true purpose of the ‘non-profit org’, i.e. helping wounded veterans.

9 posted on 11/11/2013 9:03:55 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Sadly, I have heard the same thing from a friend (Marine) at Walter Reed.


10 posted on 11/11/2013 9:04:40 AM PST by whitedog57 ( Cy)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I had no idea. We have donated to WWP several times in the past. Can anyone verify this?


11 posted on 11/11/2013 9:05:57 AM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: bmwcyle

I never give to national charities anymore. I prefer to give to church or local groups that I have thoroughly vetted


12 posted on 11/11/2013 9:06:36 AM PST by Josa
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Greed will infiltrate every organization and business if left unchecked, or if it’s migrated to the top, or starts at the top.


13 posted on 11/11/2013 9:06:39 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I quit working with them when they refused to accept donations from a church. After researching their “success,” it seems like they are good fundraisers, but not good at transparency.


14 posted on 11/11/2013 9:07:04 AM PST by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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To: G Larry

WWP has done alot to help my son. In the 3 years my family has delt with this organization we have nothing but great things to say about what they have done for us. Some may have a different experience, but for us they have been the answer to our prayers.


15 posted on 11/11/2013 9:07:31 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: dangus

I would like a clarification of the numbers. Does this mean that 99.8% is used in fundraising and expenses, or does it mean that 44.8% is used in fundraising and administrative expenses - which is part of the 55% program expenses?

If the former, it is a completely fraudulent “charity” intended to pay administrative salaries. If the later, it is not being managed as well as it should, administratively heavy, but possibly still well intentioned.


16 posted on 11/11/2013 9:08:02 AM PST by GilesB
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To: Oldpuppymax
There’s a special place for these types on judgment day. This is like the American Cancer Society and Susan G. Komen foundations seeking donations to cure cancer, then they both turn around and donate the money you donated to them to help cure cancer, to one of the biggest causes of cancer in the world today – Planned Parenthood’s abortion business. Capitalizing on other’s misery and creating more misery for people is pure evil.
17 posted on 11/11/2013 9:08:52 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Josa

I give mostly to reputable local and regional ones, mainly animal shelters and rescues.


18 posted on 11/11/2013 9:08:56 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Josa

Me too.


19 posted on 11/11/2013 9:11:03 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Oldpuppymax

How about Marine Parents? I’ve done a little work with them, and they seemed legit.


20 posted on 11/11/2013 9:12:19 AM PST by CH3CN (Gone Galt 05/25/13)
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To: Oldpuppymax

They lost me when they refused a donation from a church group awhile back. (See http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/wounded-warrior-project-apologizes-for-rejecting-church-donation.html)


21 posted on 11/11/2013 9:14:14 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: dangus

By comparison Fisher House has 96.6% going to the troops, and 2.2% admin costs, and 1% fundraising.


22 posted on 11/11/2013 9:15:15 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Oldpuppymax

Several years ago, I made a rather substantial donation (for me) to an org that purported to provide laptop computers to injured vets.

That got me on ‘the list’. Twice per month thereafter, I was receiving ‘we want more’ mailings. Some of those mailing were costly to produce, as they included pre-paid FEDEX return packs, etc.

It took 4 returns that I marked ‘REMOVE ME’ before they quit sending their mailings.

The total cost of their expensive ‘we want more’ mailings probably ate up half of my original donation. I concluded that they had turned into a professional fundraising org that spend more on fundraising than aiding vets. In one of their last mailings they indicated that they were joining one of the bigger ‘vet aid’ groups.

Regrettably, it becomes more difficult to find ‘real’ groups/orgs that actually do disperse aid as they claim.


23 posted on 11/11/2013 9:16:24 AM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
C'mon the CEO, Steve Nardizzi, only made $311,538 in 2012, offering services already available through the VA, while spending other people's money.
Caaaaan't be a scam.
24 posted on 11/11/2013 9:16:42 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

He’s also anti gun.


25 posted on 11/11/2013 9:17:48 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: dangus

They sure have a huge budget for TV commercials.


26 posted on 11/11/2013 9:19:02 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: G Larry

About a year or so ago a church-supported private school raised SEVERAL thousand dollars for WWP. They refused to take the money because it was a church-affilated school. That church has also raised more funds for the project, which was also refused. Several groups went to bat for the school, saying that there was no coercion with this gift to do anything religious, or make any religious professions with the gift, so why would IT be deemed coercive and a gift from an atheist group would not? I think they finally accepted it, but with a lot of coercion from MANY other groups to do the right thing. However, other facts started to leak out about the high costs associated with running the charity, and although one does expect there to be real operating costs involved, it should not be more than a certain percent...I think 25%, give or take a little. Some groups operate on less because most of the workers are volunteers, not paid workers. To me, when I heard they refused this gift in the first place, it told me all that I needed to know. Another PC group that is susceptible to bribery and graft. NOT ONE MORE donation will ever be given by me to that group, I don’t care WHO supports it.


27 posted on 11/11/2013 9:20:03 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Oldpuppymax; All

They lost my respect when they came out to be anti-2A.

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/11/wounded-warrior-project-is-anti-gun/#axzz2kMIDi0Cu


28 posted on 11/11/2013 9:20:23 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: sean327
In the 3 years my family has delt with this organization we have nothing but great things to say about what they have done for us.
Glad to hear you son got the help he needed.
Would be interested to know what services they provided that weren't already available via the VA.
29 posted on 11/11/2013 9:23:16 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: sean327

Good to hear that it worked for someone. Do you think that is due to the local staff and volunteers rather than something coming down from the top?


30 posted on 11/11/2013 9:23:21 AM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

We’ve donated to Fisher House in the past. I’m glad to hear that we can continue to do so.


31 posted on 11/11/2013 9:23:27 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Charity Navigator says the CEO/Executive Director of WWP, Steven Nardizzi, receives $311,538 in compensation, which is 32% of all expenses. What a crock that is. Glad this news is coming out, as I have recently become sick of the exploitative commercials used again and again, and have to mute them.

Charity Navigator also compares the overall score of several other veteran's orgs at the bottom of the page, and they don't look much better:

Wounded Warrior Project, FL - 54.39
USO of Illinois - 58.16
DAV (Disabled American Veterans) Charitable Service Trust, KY - 55.36
USO of Missouri, Inc. - 64.37
Special Operations Warrior Foundation, FL - 68.89

The same page also provides a link to highly-rated vets aid orgs at the very bottom, but you have to be a registered user to access it.

32 posted on 11/11/2013 9:24:47 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yep. I was skeptical of their *fundraising* efforts just by the looks of their (multiple per month) slick mailings and TV commercials. But the final straw for me was when they refused to go on GunTalk radio, last Veteran’s Day. I’ve sent back EVERY mailer to them, asking to be removed from their list, since. Here’s an article explaining the *anti-gun* stance - that’s come back to kick ‘em in the butt....

http://www.guns.com/2012/11/14/wounded-warrior-project-gun-community-gun-talk/


33 posted on 11/11/2013 9:26:04 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: esoxmagnum

“I had no idea. We have donated to WWP several times in the past. Can anyone verify this?”

You can find the contact info for the author at the end of the original piece.


34 posted on 11/11/2013 9:28:09 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: centurion316
Okay--I always wonder how much all those ads WWP shows cost.

But--is there a way to get a list of those organizations which really do help wounded veterans? Certainly the need for our help is not going away any time soon.

35 posted on 11/11/2013 9:29:03 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: oh8eleven

The VA stone walled us, WWP helped with the mountain of paperwork for his claims. They helped push his TBI claim that the VA kept refusing. My boy was in a vehicle that was hit by an IED. He suffered a brain injury, a crushed testicle, a broken arm and severe hearing loss. The VA dragged their feet but eventually honored all but the TBI. WWP busted their azzes for 18 months to get the VA to do their job. Our experience with WWP has been nothing but positive.


36 posted on 11/11/2013 9:30:32 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: dangus
According to Charity Navigator, WWP allocates 55 percent of its revenue to program expenses and 44.8 percent to fundraising and administrative expenses. That’s pretty poor.

Wow, that's shocking if true. WWP sure seems to have a lot of $$$ for TV commercials...

37 posted on 11/11/2013 9:31:01 AM PST by nutmeg (ObamaCare: Yet another disaster brought to you by the democRATic party)
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To: Oldpuppymax

You mean the fact that they now want “Monthly Donors” to continue their revenue stream but won’t take a penny from firearms groups or churches? The fact that they are paying for high priced advertising and wasting the money they do get just to drive that revenue stream?


38 posted on 11/11/2013 9:33:41 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: sean327
The VA stone walled us
My first set of phone calls would have been to local politicians ... followed up with local news stations, newspapers, etc.
Glad all is well and you must be very proud of your sons.
Semper Fi ...
39 posted on 11/11/2013 9:38:48 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Albion Wilde

“DAV (Disabled American Veterans) “

DAV in Colorado fired a Vietnam veteran, whose was their transportation manager, and his wife, who was their regional director, and replaced them with two illegal aliens. DAV in Colorado has history of hiring illegal aliens while claiming they hire veterans.


40 posted on 11/11/2013 9:38:55 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

When my son was injured and required extensive hospitalization in 2011 (he is a Marine), it was Fisher House, Semper Fi Fund and Charity Works who provided for travel expenses, lodging, food, rental cars; even cash for essentials for the family while staying with the injured.

(Our troops injuries rarely result in a week stay at the hospital, my son was in for 14 months, and they encouraged family members involvement as much as possible).

They were wonderful, and came to the hospital to check on the family members.


41 posted on 11/11/2013 9:39:58 AM PST by kevslisababy
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To: sean327

“The VA stone walled us, WWP helped with the mountain of paperwork for his claims. “

They will just enough good work like that to then use such actions to gain additional donations. It is called propaganda: Do a little good then leverage it to the hilt.


42 posted on 11/11/2013 9:40:07 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

This sucks. I gave them a lot of money.


43 posted on 11/11/2013 9:40:18 AM PST by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: TomGuy

I think we got those same mailings ....and WWF also sends out lots of stuff...so I finally told them to shove it! Fisher House will get our contributions.


44 posted on 11/11/2013 9:41:30 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Oldpuppymax; All

Well, I do not give much to charity organizations, because of the potential, destructive corruption that comes with their initial good intentions...

But the fact still remains...We have millions of Veterans that DO need a little encouragement (at the very least) to get through rough times...

It is not hard to find Veterans in need, it takes a lot to get them to open up, accept help, if they need it...It sometimes takes another Veteran to get one to open up and be amiable to folks that genuinely want to help...

It is not an easy path...For anyone...

It take patience, love of country, love of liberty, freedom, and understanding that it takes more than words sometimes to give comfort to those Veterans that are going through a challenging period in their lives...And also to know it is sometimes more than just them, it is their spouses, and extended family...

You have to look at the big picture, and not get caught up in any distractions...

That’s been my experience in supporting Veterans I have met into over the last 20 years...

What will really cook yer noodle...Most want to help, rather than recieve assistance...


45 posted on 11/11/2013 9:44:24 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: sean327
sean327 :" The VA stone walled us, WWP helped with the mountain of paperwork for his claims."

There is confusion between two helping organizations.
There is a sepate organization of active duty Marines, which deals only with injured Marines.
That would be the woundedwarriorregiment
Information can be found at: <>

I hope this clears up some of the confusion between these organizations.

46 posted on 11/11/2013 9:48:58 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Sorry http://www.woundedwarriorregiment.org
47 posted on 11/11/2013 9:50:21 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Oldpuppymax

http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=3467


48 posted on 11/11/2013 9:50:27 AM PST by RetSignman (As Goes America, So Goes the World. A Communist America, A Communist World.)
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To: antidisestablishment

“...when they refused to accept donations from a church...”

__________________________________

THAT incident was what stopped us from donating anything to them.


49 posted on 11/11/2013 9:53:02 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: milagro

I give to a local charity. I know the founder, know the volunteers (not paid staff) running it, and know their work. They don’t run ads.

http://www.wyandottedailynews.com/news/hooah!-kck-sam%E2%80%99s-club-donates-to-group-that-assists-veterans/


50 posted on 11/11/2013 10:03:03 AM PST by centurion316
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