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Exclusive: Interview with Doug Vogt, Petitioner for Birth Certificate Forgery Affidavits
Birther Report ^ | October 30, 2013 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 10/30/2013 9:28:18 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

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To: Fred Nerks

This is a possible source.

http://books.google.com/books?id=cThSAAAAQBAJ&pg=PT10&dq=malik+obama&hl=en&sa=X&ei=85V5UpPuDuSqiAKsrIGgDA&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

The Table of Contents includes a “List of Plates (Picture Gallery)”.

The very last page of this preview edition has two pictures, one of Obama Sr.’s graduation gown(Harvard)and another of his “shaving machine” (a razor). The book is by the son, Malik and if he has the graduation robe and “shaving machine”, it makes sense he would also have the passports.

Frankly, I won’t waste any money buying the damn thing just to satisfy my curiosity but it is listed on Amazon.


41 posted on 11/05/2013 5:16:01 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Thanks, I’ll save the link to read later. The person who published the images of the passports on his blog...was asked where he obtained them, but I have not been able to find an answer.
How easy would it have been for him to reply...from the book written by Malik?


42 posted on 11/05/2013 5:34:08 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I just Googled - malik obama the rise and life of a true african scholar - and started to go down the list of websites, on the second page is the Smith website.

And there is a statement by Smith that he is going to buy the book and then write a review of it. That was in January, 2013.


43 posted on 11/05/2013 6:02:15 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Without provenance, it’s difficult to accept that the passport images are genuine. He doesn’t say, in anything I can find, where the images came from. I can imagine the kenyan stating the wrong birth year on his renewal application, but what I can’t understand is why he would sign (Bearer) with a name that looks nothing like Obama.


44 posted on 11/05/2013 6:24:45 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I agree it makes no sense. It’s not like two different people signing the same name but the same person signing two different names.

Is it possible that the second signature is an African or Swahili version of his name?


45 posted on 11/05/2013 6:38:51 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan
Signature of Bearer
46 posted on 11/05/2013 6:39:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: 4Zoltan

I always thought how handy it would be if he had a previous passport in a different name and had already been to the US once before. That would have enabled him to study for the degree he maintained he already had, when he arrived in Hawaii. He maintained he had a degree in Business Administration at an early interview. He didn’t achieve THAT in Kenya.

He could have used the family name. ONYANGO. His brother Omar calls himself Omar Onyango. But that signature doesn’t look like ONYANGO, does it?

Might have been written ONIANGO? Who knows.


47 posted on 11/05/2013 6:45:40 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: 4Zoltan

Important to note that the pages you are looking at DO NOT HAVE NAMES

48 posted on 11/05/2013 6:52:14 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: 4Zoltan
GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE AT THE OBAMA FILE.LINK


49 posted on 11/05/2013 7:04:12 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Ok this last image has three dates - the original issue date of April 29, 1959, original expiration date of April 29, 1964 and the new renewal expiration date of April 29, 1969.

There is also a stamp from the British Consulate in Boston. The British Consult stamp and the British Vice-Consul stamp are dated 10- Sep-63. And this passport is in English and French.

So he must have gotten his original passport extended while in the US. That’s seems to be the passport that lists him as occupation as clerk and has the weird signature.

The second passport photo has to be from an entirely different passport (Maelezo at the top of the page is Swahili for Description, whereas the word Signalement on the first passport is French for Description).

My guess would be that the second passport (the Economist Passport) was gotten after he returned to Kenya and after 1969 when his first renewed passport (the Clerk Passport) expired.


50 posted on 11/05/2013 7:48:36 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan; Fred Nerks

Looking at “theobamafile.com” page. There is a fourth photo that appears to be the front cover page of the “Clerk Passport”. It is in English and French with a passport number of 84764.

Are there any more photos?


51 posted on 11/05/2013 8:11:19 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan
POSTING THE FOURTH IMAGE:


52 posted on 11/05/2013 8:22:11 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: 4Zoltan

Passport Number 84764

53 posted on 11/05/2013 8:38:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: 4Zoltan
You may be able to pick up what you are looking for here:

GOOGLE IMAGES

54 posted on 11/05/2013 8:45:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: 4Zoltan

Passport Number 5866

55 posted on 11/05/2013 8:46:43 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: 4Zoltan
Passport Number 84764
56 posted on 11/05/2013 9:02:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Passport 5866 is in English/Swahili so I would assume it goes with the “Economist Passport”.

What’s missing is the page in-between this page and the page with the physical description (and signature). That page would list the dates.


57 posted on 11/05/2013 9:30:40 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

I’m inclined to leave it there, until such time as the reason for the different Bearer names is explained.


58 posted on 11/05/2013 9:38:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: 4Zoltan; Fred Nerks

Ok, found the page.

http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/o-senior-Kenya-pass-1964-d.jpg

The passport is in English/Swahili. It was issued September 18, 1964 probably for passport 5866. And appears to have been issued in Nairobi.

So after Obama Sr. left the US in the spring of 1964 (?), he returned to Kenya and got a new passport.


59 posted on 11/05/2013 9:49:45 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fred Nerks

I doubt we’ll ever figure that out. But you never know.


60 posted on 11/05/2013 9:50:48 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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