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Detroit Pensioners To Get 16 Cents On the Dollar (Mismanagement Has Consequences)
Confounded Interest ^ | 10/28/2013 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 10/28/2013 7:45:37 AM PDT by whitedog57

Reuters may get the award for the worst headline of the year. “Detroit pension cuts ‘function of mathematics’ -investment banker.”

It just told me that Detroit pensions would be cut. But what you learn later in the article is pretty shocking:

“Buckfire, a Detroit native and investment banker with restructuring experience, later told the court the city plans to pay unsecured creditors, including the city’s pensioners, 16 cents on the dollar. There are about 23,500 city retirees.”

16 cents on the dollar? Quite a haircut! Well, that is what happens when municipal government spends too much money (inefficiently) and suffers a decline in the tax base.

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And the leading expense in Detroit is public safety.

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The result for the State of Michigan is elevated municipal bond rates and a credit default swaps on par with Europe. The green line is the US Treasury yield curve.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; detroit; obama; pensions
Will Obama bail out Detroit pensioners? I will wager yes.
1 posted on 10/28/2013 7:45:37 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57; moder_ator

This has been posted, and possibly debunked, it is 16% of the unfunded portion of the pension liability i.e. the shortfall.


2 posted on 10/28/2013 7:47:56 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: whitedog57

>> Will Obama bail out Detroit pensioners? I will wager yes.

To cover your bet and determine appropriate odds, I’d need to have a percentage breakdown of the pensioners’ race. ;-)


3 posted on 10/28/2013 7:49:17 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: whitedog57

Buckfire, Buckwheats grandson?


4 posted on 10/28/2013 7:51:20 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: whitedog57

elections also have consequences. Detroiters have been electing the wrong people for decades. Detroit’s chickens are coming home to roost. (thank you Rev. Jeremiah Wright.)


5 posted on 10/28/2013 7:53:40 AM PDT by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: whitedog57

It is less cost to send in the troops and kill them. I see that.


6 posted on 10/28/2013 7:57:46 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Daveinyork

Labor unions in Detroit, just proved the you reap what you sow. They loved sticking it to manufacturers, and now the little chicks are coming home to roost.


7 posted on 10/28/2013 7:58:03 AM PDT by rovenstinez (,)
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To: whitedog57

That’s much better than the GM bondholders got when Obama gave their savings away to his union buds. Many honest GM investors are now destitute after Obama punished them for saving and investing in GM.


8 posted on 10/28/2013 8:00:09 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: whitedog57

Maybe they can track down where their mayors monies are?


9 posted on 10/28/2013 8:05:53 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: rovenstinez

They also loved sticking it to the taxpayers, who have largely gone Galt in Detroit.


10 posted on 10/28/2013 8:19:08 AM PDT by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: whitedog57

Quite the opposite, Bammy will raid our 401s and other funds.


11 posted on 10/28/2013 8:20:40 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: dblshot

Late queer porn star “Buttfire’s” son who goes both ways.


12 posted on 10/28/2013 8:21:38 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Daveinyork
elections also have consequences.

Inferior cultures have consequences.

13 posted on 10/28/2013 8:22:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: whitedog57

Coming to Social Security soon!


14 posted on 10/28/2013 8:37:28 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( "I was all for Obamacare, until I found out I was paying for it." - California Girl)
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