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US Debt Already Exceeds Debt Limit by $48 Billion Minimum; Gold vs. Debt Ceiling
Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis ^ | 10/08/2013 | Mish Shedlock

Posted on 10/09/2013 10:12:17 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Please note that the current debt limit is $16.699 trillion.

Debt to the Penny

Interestingly, the US Treasury website Debt to the Penny and Who Hold It shows the current public debt as 16,747,429,285,635.12 (the same as Nick shows in the above chart).

Treasury Stops Updating National Debt

You do not have to be a math genius to figure out that "debt to the penny" already exceeds the debt limit.

I asked Nick about that and he replied ...

Since mid-May, "debt to the penny" hasn't been rising. When they postponed raising the debt limit they stopped showing any increase in the debt.

We're currently $48 billion over and have been there since May 21st or so.

I would like to know what the real figure now is but little chance of that until they raise the debt limit.

What's the "real" national debt? No one knows at the moment.

(Excerpt) Read more at globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 113th; bho44; debtceiling; debtlimit; debttothepenny; federalspending; mish; obamasfault; publicdebt; shutdown; usdebt
I haven't seen anyone ask Obama or Lew how much we have actually gone over the debt limit already.
1 posted on 10/09/2013 10:12:17 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Good thread. Thanks for posting this. Something hinky & illegal is going on.


2 posted on 10/09/2013 10:30:02 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

And Obama is going around saying he cut the deficit, but for the last 5 months the debt hasn’t been updated. I know one trick they use is not paying the Federal retirement system, but last time this was done and the debt limit was increased, if you looked at it the actual debt immediately increased.


3 posted on 10/09/2013 10:47:16 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Huh. Thanks for the info.


4 posted on 10/09/2013 11:02:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy
"Something hinky & illegal is going on."

Ya think? The illegal activity started a long time ago when secured bondholders of GM and Chrysler were robbed of their security which was given to the UAW. This is just more of the same.

This is not going to make you feel any better. We have had some TERRIBLE (liberal) governments in Canada. Unfortunately, every one of them was duly elected by my fellow citizens. Mr. Obama was elected in 2008 and re-elected by your fellow citizens.

5 posted on 10/09/2013 11:07:38 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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