A complete idiot wrote this line?
Bama ping.
No, This seems to be fact. Especially outside of the major metropolitan areas.
Especially in the south, west and southwest.
That definitely is NOT a very intelligent way to handle it.
There are a couple of states that REQUIRE you to give the ‘heads up’ upon contact -without him/her asking (NC is one) but the ONLY state I would voluntarily give that info to is my home state (VA) as I am properly licensed and they probably have that data anyway.
If an officer starts asking ‘leading’ questions (we know that most of the time they ask a question they are reasonably sure they know the answer)and it is a VA ‘friendly’ state, I may volunteer that I am armed but in a NON friendly state (virtually entire NE and Left Coast) no voluntary info as you will more than likely become their ‘guest’ for a while.
The long term view of this is police become so blasé to citizen carry that mentioning it is just a social nicety, a way of identifying yourself as a “law abiding, polite person”, not a ruffian, blackguard, scoundrel or inebriate.
Guns and etiquette, the two things go together. In Arizona, pretty soon men will tip their hats to ladies, and children will address adults as “Ma’am” and “Sir”.
Seriously cool AL State Trooper Heraldry on the patch— look at the various parts-inside the Large Shield are: Lions Rampant (the old English empire), the Union Jack (again later UK), the Fleur de Lis of the French Louisiana (of which Alabama was a part) and the Stars and Bars battle flag of the CSA-— all these joined in the middle by the Shield of the United States (similar to the US Senate shield and other US shield applications). This setting has paired Bald Eagles who clutch a banner that says “We Dare Defend Our Rights”.
That is exceptional. Worth looking into the State police patches and emblems in our other States.
I had a similar experience. Pulled over on a lonely backwoods road, Sherrif dept car, I wasn’t paying attention to my speed, 65 in a 55.
He asks for the usual, license, registration and insurance. I say “sure, but first I’m suppose to show you this (handing him CCW permit), and the handgun is in the computer bag (pointing to drivers side floor), just tell me what you need.”
He then chews on me a little “... Do you know how much a 65 in a 55 zone is? $200, so slow it down”. He then hands me back my permit and turns to go, never even seeing the insurance and registration, I ask if there is anything else he needs, and he says I’m good to go, “...by the way, I like your bumper sticker (’Save A Cow, eat a vegetarian’)”. I say “THANKYOU!”
I’m not saying having a permit saved me from a ticket, (maybe it was the bumper sticker? LOL) but I do think that in these parts anyway that from all the background checking required it does possibly change the tone of an encounter with a LEO.
The wife and I were returning from the gulf with a cooler full of snapper and grouper in the trunk....headed up 431 north toward Columbus. I had just bought a highpoint 9mm that looked like a mac -10...30 round clip and all..and it was sitting trapped between my seat and the console after having ran a 500 round box of ammo through it at sea testing it out(Flawless btw).
We were coming up a long hill just south of Opelika and I pushed the car up to 80 for the first time on the 65 mph road...just as an ASP topped the hill from the other direction. He passed me and bootlegged....very skillfully...and caught me quick.
“How fast you going son?”
“About 82 or so sir...and btw...I got this right here.”
“Just take the magazine out of it and clear the bolt...then set it up on the dash. Since you were honest...and you’re giving me some them fillets...I’m dropping your ticket to 75 in a 65(150 bucks less). Have a nice day.”
Well...we actually bs’d long enough to piss off the wife....about the fishing...the firearm....the famous former sheriff of my home county Earl Lee...God...football. Nice dude.
Thanks for posting this.
Wonder if Obama will hold a press conference later today and state “that shooter could have been me”......
I asked him, "When you pull someone over and you find they are a CCW holder does it make you more nervous or more relaxed regarding the encounter?" He responded that he'd probably be a lot more cautious. I asked him to please go look at the criminal stats of CCW holders, as they are by far the most law-abiding group he's likely to encounter in just about any situation. Told him, he should take that in to account in his situational risk assessment. He said he'd think about it, and do some research on his own. Since then, he told me he's brought it up with others on the force. Score a big win for me!
Based on the following excerpt and other studies, it appears that CCW permitees as a class may have the lowest rate of violent crime than any other class, including law enforcement officers.
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The rate that concealed carry permit holders are now losing their permits for gun related violations
Between, October 1, 1987, and November 30, 2008, Florida issued permits to 1,439,446 people, many of whom have had their permits renewed multiple times. Only 166 had their permits revoked for any type of firearms related violation – about 0.01 percent. I was just looking up the new numbers. Updating those numbers to January 31, 2010, Florida has now issued permits to 1,704,624 people. The number who have had their permits revoked has risen to just 167. In 14 months, just one person with a Florida permit has lost his permit for a fire arms related violation. There are currently 692,621 valid permits. That is a revocation rate of 0.00014 percent.
http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2010/02/rate-that-concealed-carry-permit.html
Well, a carry permit means you’ve passed a background check that basically means you are not ever going to be a problem for the officer.
So, in a way, the carry permit lets them breath a sigh of relief.