Posted on 09/12/2013 5:19:20 PM PDT by marktwain
Due to the nature of the call, combined with the officers’ observations of the subjects walking toward the farm market armed with rifles, they were briefly detained at the scene. The firearms were identified as AR-15 rifles. Both subjects told officers they were also wearing concealed handguns. The individuals indicated they were walking to the Downtown Appleton Farm Market and were exercising their right to open carry the AR-15 rifles. They possessed the proper paperwork for the concealed handguns on their persons. After determining the subjects did not intend to harm people and were legally able to possess the aforementioned weapons, the individuals were allowed to leave.I wonder what the officers told their administration? Did the administration even bother listening to the audio file? The file clearly shows the officers conspiring to violate Charles and Ross' first and second amendment rights. They continued to violate their 4th amendment rights long after determining that they were no threat and were not committing any crimes. It is clear that the officers had no reasonable suspicion to detain them.
The Appleton Police Department has no ongoing investigation and considers the issue resolved.
/johnny
The settlement will likely be bigger now. It will take more lawyering.
Yep. It's gonna be a learning opportunity for the city.
/johnny
The tremendous irony of these rights abuses around the US is that the gun rights advocates are so singularly courteous, and even when they are forced to sue, they usually make it clear that they are not in this for the money, but want the LEOs to be properly trained and given directions so they do not violate the rights of others.
It’s hard to come up with a label to describe this. “Professionalism” is incorrect, because the vast majority are just ordinary citizens. But it is close.
“Persuasive” also seems to fit the bill. As does “effective”. Obviously the Just Us Department is right to be frightened of such people. Harlots usually fear an honest cop.
Excellent post. You have captured the essense of the effort.
The settlement will likely be bigger now. It will take more lawyering.
Once in awhile, nothing will do but an assault lawyer.
I didn’t hear the video yet, I hear it is on the web though somewhere, so I’ll look for it.
But in the meantime, did the two ever ask the police if they were being detained? apparently that is important, so that there is a record that you are being held, otherwise the police will say they were just talking to you and it’s not their fault you didn’t get up and walk away.
“But in the meantime, did the two ever ask the police if they were being detained? apparently that is important, so that there is a record that you are being held, otherwise the police will say they were just talking to you and it’s not their fault you didn’t get up and walk away.”
The encounter started with the police pulling guns on them and ordering them against a brick wall.
The links are in this story.
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