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Sexual myths on college campuses effecting protection from rape?
Examiner ^ | September 10, 2013 | Martha

Posted on 09/10/2013 12:07:23 PM PDT by usalady

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To: CharlesWayneCT

Thank you. I hate to be nasty but how do men get it up if it’s not about sex?

I feel like I’m the only woman to think like this. Except, of course, the great Camille Paglia.


21 posted on 09/10/2013 1:32:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: usalady
It is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual needs. It has little to do with the need for sex

What are you trying to say--that rape is serious because it is about violence and not about sex?

So a punch in the jaw--which is about violence--is more serious than sex without the woman's permission?

22 posted on 09/10/2013 1:43:24 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Sherman Logan
It goes back to the start of the sexual revolution, when a concerted effort was made to get rid of the notion that any sexual activity could possibly be "bad."

Since we were all agreed that rape was bad, then obviously it couldn't be sex.

Very, very well said.

23 posted on 09/10/2013 1:45:30 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

Thank you much. I just get so tired of this idiocy.

Sex is not in and of itself either good or bad. Like most human activities, it can be participated in ways that are either.


24 posted on 09/10/2013 1:54:54 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: Age of Reason

Well, lets look at a rape accusation, shall we?
What was this one caused by?
How about: Predatory female seeking quick payday...

Original charge: simple rape.
Lowered to: sexual battery
Final outcome: Not guilty

Former LSU football player Charles Scott found not guilty of sexual battery

David Lippman

Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 11:13am
GONZALES, LA — After two days of testimony and arguments, a judge ruled former LSU star football player Charles Scott not guilty of sexual battery Wednesday.

Judge Jessie Leblanc took 20 minutes to deliberate, and used two sentences to explain her ruling.

Scott and his family celebrated loudly when Leblanc handed down her decision.

“I’m just ready to move on with my life and get ready for my career,” Scott said. His family said several NFL teams have checked in on the running back, including one that called Tuesday.

Scott spent two seasons in the NFL before the allegations.

The state claimed that her impersonated another man to have sex with the victim against her will on November 12-13, 2011.

The alleged victim cried with her family after the verdict, and was consoled by the prosecutors.

“Devastation, of course,” her mother, Myra Foret, said of their reaction. “I mean, that’s not what we wanted to hear, it’s not what we expected to hear, because there was enough evidence to prove her, that she was right.”

The defense argued that the accuser’s story changed over time. They claimed she initially told investigators she had “been drinking,” that night, but later admitted to having been so drunk she blacked out.

Judge Leblanc mentioned that inconsistent testimony from several witnesses factored into her decision. She said also said the DNA evidence did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Scott raped the alleged victim.

Surveillance video showed Scott with his accuser at Bogie’s Bar on the night of November 12, 2011. She alleged that he poured approximately four drinks for her, then drove her and another man to the house Scott was living at in Prairieville. The woman and the other man had consensual sex, but when the man left the room, Scott allegedly walked in, claimed to be that man, and began having sex with her. She testified that she realized the difference after a couple moments and told Scott to stop, but he refused. She told the court he finally stopped a few minutes later, grabbed her, and shoved her out the door onto the street.

“The victim gave statements that were consistent, from the time that it originally happened through (Wednesday),” said District Attorney Ricky Babin. “There was some minor inconsistencies in some other witnesses. With that and the DNA, I really couldn’t find (one specific reason), I really couldn’t tell you.”

Even though her son was freed, Phyllis Scott knew that her joy meant misery for the alleged victim’s family. She hoped both her son and his accuser would be able to move on.

“I just pray that she can have a successful life, in whatever she chooses to do,” Phyllis Scott said. “That she will be happy in whatever she chooses to do. I pray for that family, and I hope and pray that both of them, everybody involved, will learn something from this.”

Charles Scott faced up to 10 years in prison if he had been convicted.

Foret said her daughter will pursue a civil case. The family still believes Scott committed a heinous act and needs to be held accountable.


25 posted on 09/10/2013 1:55:08 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
And maybe it is only in the movies where drunk men end up raping the heroine because they are attracted to her. But I doubt it.

It has been well-known for decades, though seldom reported, that far and away the most common female sexual fantasy is being raped. Which ties right in with the "romance" novels, many of which feature actual rape, and the wild popularity of the 50 Shades books. While 50S may not be about rape, as such, it most certainly is about mixing sex with domination and power exchange. With rape being the ultimate in both.

This is not to say that women who fantasize about this stuff want it to come true in reality. (Unless of course the rapist is gorgeous, well-dressed, rich and considerate.)

But quite obviously the notion packs an erotic punch for both men and women.

26 posted on 09/10/2013 2:00:04 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: Pikachu_Dad
What was this one caused by?

How about skanky people engaging in skanky behavior?

Nobody here was behaving with decency.

27 posted on 09/10/2013 2:03:35 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: usalady
It is an act of physical violence and domination that is not motivated by sexual needs

Really? Then why are most victims young women? If your theory were correct, it would predict at minimum a more even distribution among females not of child-bearing age. The facts contradict your assertion.

28 posted on 09/10/2013 2:19:08 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Sherman Logan

So rape or not rape?


29 posted on 09/10/2013 5:08:31 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: usalady

Quote” An affirmative answer was counted as rape. In other words, a women who regretted a one night stand after a night of drinking was considered as having been sexually assaulted. The ambiguous nature of the questions and inclusive definition of rape is evident from the following statistics. Only 27 percent of the women Koss counted as having been raped identified themselves as rape victims. Moreover, 42 percent of labeled rape victims, went on to have sex with their attackers at a later date. Clearly, something is wrong. If we just consider women who considered themselves to be raped, the figure falls to a more believable 1/14.” http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/


30 posted on 09/10/2013 5:18:42 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Blueflag

Read this one.

http://www.leaderu.com/real/ri9502/sommers.html


31 posted on 09/10/2013 5:21:02 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I have no idea. But it seems pretty obvious that it was impossible to prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt.

Under common law the definition of rape was sexual intercourse by force or fraud. In this case she was claiming fraud.


32 posted on 09/10/2013 6:52:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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