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To: Windflier
Actually you appear to be doing just that.

There are plenty of good conservative legal minds that disagree with the take of the birthers, yet you are being dismissive of them rather than looking at what they are saying. For you to sneer at the vast majority of conservative opinion, then presume that means I'm someone willing to trample on the constitution makes your argument ring hollow.

There was legitimate argument against the birthers to begin with, legitimate arguments that show the birther nonsense is not the constitutional way, yet you seem to be choosing to go all guilt trip instead of realizing you may not be correct in presuming the birthers are the ones who might be seeing this wrong.

Not to mention that funny thing called "precedent". If they had an argument, it's gone. For anyone to presume one of our finest candidates should follow one (somewhat crazy) interpretation of the Constitution by the stormfronters and libs that inhabit them, of all groups, is a bit unsettling. Sorry, that's where the birther nonsense resides, the stormfronters.

Like I once said, some groups of conservative "purists" are not often so pure and are often just as stupid as the GOPE. For us to follow one crazy group and take out one of our best future candidates is more than unsettling. Look at the responses to post # 42. It's an example of why we lose all the time now. The circulare firing squad will get them all, including Cruz and Palin.

70 posted on 08/15/2013 6:27:39 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Lakeshark
There was legitimate argument against the birthers to begin with, legitimate arguments that show the birther nonsense is not the constitutional way, yet you seem to be choosing to go all guilt trip instead of realizing you may not be correct in presuming the birthers are the ones who might be seeing this wrong.

Lake, I'm not trying to guilt trip you, but your argument is one based in desperation - not logic. Your last response is all over the map.

Now you're accusing those of us who understand the NBC clause as the Framers did, of being Stormfronters? Friend, I'd expect a slander like that out of a GOP-e shill or a lib, but not a Freeper.

And you keep throwing the word 'purist' around like it's an ad hominem. Dude. Do you realize what ground you're arguing from? Only the enemies of the republic want to see the NBC standard weakened. Conservatives want to see the highest standard possible maintained.

Alright. I tried to end off a few posts back before we got here. It's not my intent to escalate the disagreement and distance between us by arguing over this.

71 posted on 08/15/2013 9:19:26 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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