Let me give you a clue, here, Cold Case Posse Supporter.
A NORMAL person would say, "Gee. I don't see that. Can you direct me to where you got that quote?"
Not a birther. A birther immediately launches into a personal attack against anyone who posts a fact that shoots down his precious myth.
MamaTexan said:
Here's the Google results for your *quote*
I'm afraid you don't know how to do an advanced search on Google's vast store of books. It is different from a regular Google search. Perhaps you should learn about it.
Gee, I wonder why all those lead to YOUR POSTS ON FR, Jeff? I wonder why this quote can't be found ANYWHERE else on the net.
Would you like to know what a LEGITMATE quote from Bayard looks like, Jeff?
Greisser was born in the state of Ohio in 1867, his father being a German subject, and domiciled in Germany, to which country the child returned. After quoting the act of 1866 and the fourteenth amendment, Mr. Secretary Bayard said: 'Richard Greisser was, no doubt, born in the United States, but he was on his birth 'subject to a foreign power,' and 'not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.' He was not, therefore, under the statute and the constitution, a citizen of the United States by birth; and it is not pretended that he has any other title to citizenship.' A Digest of the International Law of the United States , 1887 / Chapter VII, Page 183
Anyone who twists the facts and truncates quotes in order to support a false argument has nothing to say that would interest me at all.
Sigh.
The Bayard you quote was THOMAS F. BAYARD.
THOMAS Bayard was the SON of JAMES ASHETON BAYARD, JR. (who, quite confusingly, was really James Asheton Bayard III, but still went by "Junior.").
The doctrine of THOMAS Bayard, as US Secretary of State in the LATE 1800S, was that Richard Griesser, born in Ohio to a German father who was DOMICILED IN GERMANY, was not a US citizen.
That's not an unreasonable doctrine. It is an ANTI-BIRTH-TOURISM doctrine.
In any event, THOMAS Bayard wrote those words in 1887, an entire century after the Constitution was ratified.
THOMAS Bayard's opinion has some validity to it. Why should the son of a German father who was here ONLY TEMPORARILY, who DID NOT STAY HERE, who DID NOT MAKE HIS HOME IN THE UNITED STATES, be a United States citizen?
On the other hand, if Griesser had been DOMICILED here (like the parents of Wong Kim Ark) then his child born here would have been a natural born citizen.
But the Bayard that I was referring to is James Asheton Bayard, Jr., the author of A Brief Exposition of the Constitution of the United States, way back in 1833.
FIFTY-FOUR YEARS EARLIER.
And here is the link, to the 1840 edition of Bayard's book.
More than the link, here are images of the relevant pages.
Now, CCPS, both you and MamaTexan owe me a great big huge apology for falsely accusing me of posting "a bogus quote" and posting a "deceitful lie."