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To: Seizethecarp

NBC says that he will reveal the PDF when he is ready and not before.

From the native and natural born citizen blog:
NBC says:
June 30, 2013 at 02:26
We have seen some people open up illustrator trying to understand the document and concluding that it is a fraud. And we have people like Woodman and gsgs who have shown how algorithmic processes explain the data much better, and now I have shown how the issue is resolved.

We have already seen Obama’s natal records and they show him born on Hawaiian soil.

I am merely showing how those who claim that the PDF is evidence of fraud, are wrong.

The same way I have shown why people who claim that natural born means born to two citizen parents are also wrong.

It’s a hobby, it’s a lot of fun and I do not have any burden of evidence to make my case really as the status quo is fine with me…

But the birthers are in an interesting situation right now: Either they admit that they were wrong or refuse to do so and be exposed the next time we see them ‘testify’, however unlikely such an occurrence may be.

I will just sit back and watch them self destruct, attacking each other (Zullo/Gallup vs Kessler/Taitz) and while the courts will continue to reject their follies.

I have provided all the help anyone needs to confirm or disprove my findings. Let’s see how good birthers are at doing some real work…

It took me two days… Surely we can expect something by… let’s say… just to be fair… the end of the year?

Come on birthers… I know that there must be someone amongst you who can do it? I may even help by explaining which tools to use and what commands to enter. Yes my friends, it’s command line and hex editors now, not some high level program that hides all the details.


112 posted on 08/04/2013 10:28:34 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

“NBC says that he will reveal the PDF when he is ready and not before.”

Very convenient.

I note there is still not any sign I have seen that NBC has claimed to have specifically replicated the “floating” Onaka signature block.

Zullo has staked much of his personal belief and claim that the BC is forged on the inability of his numerous experts to recreate a floating artifact in a “one-button” copy scan.


113 posted on 08/04/2013 10:56:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Per NBC (nativeborncitizen)

“I have provided all the help anyone needs to confirm or disprove my findings. Let’s see how good birthers are at doing some real work…”

NBC has not provided the claimed replicated pdf, but only made unsubstantiated claims to have replicated 100% of the pdf. He/she has actually shown bupkis! So why should “birthers” try to debunk something never shown by NBC? NBC is stroking himself/herself, IMO.


114 posted on 08/04/2013 11:00:36 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Nero Germanicus
"The same way I have shown why people who claim that natural born means born to two citizen parents are also wrong."

You've never shown this.

The Framers told us what "natural born citizen" means.

The Framers in Article II distinguished between a “citizen” and a “natural born citizen”.

The first Congress, many members of which were Framers, in the Naturalization Act of 1790 distinguished between a “citizen” and a “natural born citizen”.

We know that “citizen” and “natural born citizen” are different.

Congress in the Naturalization Act of 1790 distinguished between a “citizen” and a “natural born citizen” by parental US citizenship.

Congress in the Naturalization Act of 1795, et seq, no longer made such a distinction and declared all persons naturalized to be “citizen”.

In the centuries subsequent to the 1795 Act "natural born citizens" have continued to occur.

What other persons have parental US citizenship? Quite obviously those who are not "born beyond sea", i.e. those born within the US.

The Framers deliberately distinguished between "citizen" and "natural born citizen". Congress in 1790 deliberately distinguished between "citizen" and "natural born citizen", that distinction was parental US citizenship.

118 posted on 08/05/2013 7:12:39 AM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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