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To: JOHN W K

Given the society and people in power we have today, any constitutional convention would enshrine the further enslavement of the american people to a ruling class.


2 posted on 07/11/2013 6:12:02 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard

Perhaps, but this may be the only chance to enshrine some vestigages of the original document in perpetuity without an insurrection.


4 posted on 07/11/2013 6:14:03 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Bayard
Given the society and people in power we have today, any constitutional convention would enshrine the further enslavement of the american people to a ruling class.

A Constitutional Convention can only propose amendments to the Constitution. Those amendments would still need to be ratified by 3/4ths of the states. They could propose making it our official religion to worship the three armed man in the moon, and the states would still need to ratify it. Generally, the state legislatures in this country skew much more conservative than the representation in Washington, DC.

12 posted on 07/11/2013 6:33:04 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: Bayard; JOHN W K
Agreed. My response is basically like yours except yours is much more concise...

A second Constitutional Convention would be a colossal error.

The Constitution, created during what was supposed to be a shoring up of the Articles of Convention, was a miraculous series of compromises by factions with differing self interests. God's hand was on that first convention and brought forth the greatest political document the world had ever seen (next to the Bible itself).

It was understood, even at that time, that the convergence of so many elements needed to create such a document would most likely not pass this way again. The gathering together of those men with their degree of knowledge, understanding, virtue, and ardor for a good and free republic was not to be repeated. Any attempt to do so was understood to have gravely jeopardized this Constitution given the warring factions that existed. The warring factions today are worse than ever.

Men today are not of the same caliber, by and large, as the stature of our Founders, who had a depth of knowledge and education few have today - they knew Blackstone and Aquinas and the Bible and were very familiar with Roman and Judeo-Christian law and ethics, some in Latin as well as English, and knew the Bible.

Besides all that, the issue is not a flaw in the Constitution - the issue is a major flaw in man, who seems unable to hold on to his God-given liberty very long. The Constitution is not perfect but acknowledges that too with provision for amending it according to the will of the people and the states.

15 posted on 07/11/2013 6:36:28 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Bayard

I fully agree. If they could burn the current Constitution and write a new liberal, leftist, communist, socialist, homo Constitution, they’d do it.


18 posted on 07/11/2013 6:40:24 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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